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My first retro gaming PC build - hold my hand

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Reply 60 of 70, by Nicolas 2000

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I didn't find an option to disable the onboard gameport in BIOS. The mobo manual shows one, my BIOS doesn't have it. While there, I did disable the two serial ports and the parallel port as I'm not using those anyway. I've also disabled modem related stuff.

The gameport problem remains: the joystick section of control panel says that it is not configured well and to check device manager; device manager of course says it is functioning well...

In games I see that the joystick is actually responsive, it's just not calibrated. And I can't calibrate it because control panel thinks my gameport is not set up properly. Oh joy.

Anyway, I think I'll redo the entire Audigy2 installation, this time following the Vogons guide (just not starting from a fresh 98 install, I'll just uninstall everything Audigy related in software and device manager). That might solve this issue and should give me sound in DOS, which would be a solution for the Slicks n Slide problem in Windows.

Reply 61 of 70, by y2k se

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Nicolas 2000 wrote on 2025-05-25, 19:10:

Now ... what to do with that last bay. In beige.

I put a ATAPI ZIP100 drive in mine.

Tualatin Pentium III-S 1.4, ASUS TUSL2-C, 512MB RAM, GeForce 4 Ti 4200, Voodoo2 SLI, SB Live!, 3Com 3C905C, 80GB IDE HDD, Dell 2001FP
P233MMX, Intel LT430TX, 64MB RAM, Sierra Screamin' 3D, AWE64 Gold, 3Com 3C905B, 40GB IDE HDD, Viewsonic A75f

Reply 62 of 70, by Nicolas 2000

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Progress! I've reinstalled the Audigy and did some config.sys dos memory magic. Result:

-gameport works!
-all DOS games run from W98!
-Audigy2 works perfect in W98!
-SB16 emulation works in pure DOS, however all sound comes from the left channel only. Any ideas?

Not that I need pure DOS at the moment, but it's nice to have it all configured well.

Reply 63 of 70, by Nicolas 2000

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Now that the expensive stuff is going in...how about replacing the old psu. I was looking at MSI MAG A650BN. Good choice?

-only two molex so I'd solder some old molex onto other cables.
-no floppy connectors, so idem dito. I have a dead psu for connector donors.

Any thought, anything to look for? It has a 20+4 connector. 650W should be beyond plenty?

I have no ISA slot so -5V is not required?

Reply 64 of 70, by Archer57

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You definitely do not need 650W. PSUs have lower efficiency at very low load and there is basically no reason to do it. IMO for old hardware which mostly uses 5V - make sure the PSU is based on DC-DC design instead of group regulation and buy something from reputable manufacturer, but otherwise power rating, which is mostly for 12V in modern PSUs, does not matter at all. 400w, 1500w... you are going to be limited to ~100W from 5v+3.3v rail regardless...

Specific one should work reasonably well though, if you are fine with paying for something you are not going to use...

As much as i like using modern PSUs myself i am not sure it even makes sense for hardware like this. Good quality old PSU in good condition may be a good choice...

Reply 65 of 70, by Nicolas 2000

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I know 650 is overkill but I don't find less than 550 from big brands, and even fewer with the 20+4 connector variant. I know there are adapters, but it all adds up.

As for good old PSU's: hard to know if they are good...my current old one works. That's all I know.

Suggestions for a better fitting high quality psu are welcome.

Reply 66 of 70, by Nicolas 2000

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Gigabyte P450B? Cheaper, 3 molex + floppy...sounds good.

Reply 67 of 70, by Nicolas 2000

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Some say the gigabyte psu will kill your pc...I don't know how much truth is in that bold statement.

Reply 68 of 70, by Nicolas 2000

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Meanwhile: I have the cheapo IDE-to-sata adapter (that might have issues with my Via chipset...) and I found a sata drive. Is there any risk in testing this in my pc if I set the adapter as slave? (I mean technically, can this corrupt my C: drive or something; I'm not worried about the sata drive being virus infested or anything)

Reply 69 of 70, by Archer57

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Nicolas 2000 wrote on Yesterday, 07:42:

Gigabyte P450B? Cheaper, 3 molex + floppy...sounds good.

Likely fine. Gigabyte had some really really bad press regarding their power supplies and TBH i hate that company as a whole, but that issues were related to specific PSU exploding in specific (reproducible) conditions and them being what they are and selling it to as many people as they could in as many shady ways as possible. Their other PSUs are likely fine...

Even that PSU did not kill the load BTW, it just very spectacularly exploded, but the load was not damaged in the process so yeah, whole "will kill your PC" is wrong...

Nicolas 2000 wrote on Yesterday, 17:06:

Meanwhile: I have the cheapo IDE-to-sata adapter (that might have issues with my Via chipset...) and I found a sata drive. Is there any risk in testing this in my pc if I set the adapter as slave? (I mean technically, can this corrupt my C: drive or something; I'm not worried about the sata drive being virus infested or anything)

Just use it on a separate channel altogether. This adapters often do not like being with other device on the same channel anyway (slave-master functionality is not always implemented at all or implemented correctly).

Honestly i've used a lot of this adapters and the worst i've seen is one refusing to work with specific controller or device. And even that is rare.

Reply 70 of 70, by Nicolas 2000

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OK I'll try it on the second channel to see if it works at all. If it works, I might , for the time being, put the current IDE aside and do a full clean reinstall on the SATA disk to hopefully get rid of the weird gameport and left-channel-only issues. If it doesn't work out, I'll still have the current IDE drive ready to go.