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Monkey Island Ultimate Talkie Audio Conflict

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Reply 60 of 65, by DustyShinigami

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Oh. I had no idea the Monkey Island 2 Ultimate Talkie Edition is in Beta. I thought both were fully complete...?

At any rate, yeah, General MIDI/MT-32 doesn't appear to be working for me. In fact, if I manually type monkey2.exe m r s220/5/8, I only get speech. No sound effects and no music. If I create a custom BAT with the same commands, I get all three, but the music isn't from the sound canvas. Not with r or r1.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 61 of 65, by DustyShinigami

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NeoG_ wrote on 2026-01-23, 00:07:

The switches are slightly different, although r by itself should send MIDI data to port 330 just like the first game. The differences are that r1/r2/r3/r4 got changed to r330/r332/r334/r336

Oh, I see. Because typing /? at the end gives the same list of commands as the first. I need to check the readme, to be fair.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 62 of 65, by DustyShinigami

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Hmm. The link to the forum doesn't work for me. It takes me to a gambling page. Yuck.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 63 of 65, by DustyShinigami

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Yeah, unfortunately, I'm not able to get MIDI to work with it. The readme doesn't suggest the switches are different, but putting r, r1 or r330 doesn't work. So I'll likely leave this one. I wouldn't have minded reporting bugs, but the linked sites don't work.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 64 of 65, by DustyShinigami

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NeoG_ wrote on 2026-01-22, 22:24:
carlostex wrote on 2026-01-22, 20:58:

I find that very weird. I'll probably take a look into disassembling the EXE, it doesn't make sense to me using WSS for sound effects. Sounds more and more like a DMA conflict.

I'm in agreement, I very much doubt the game is swapping digital fx drivers in real time - I don't think it has that capability at all. Seems much more likely that setting up WSS shifted around some resources or put the card into a more compatible mode

Okay, I stand corrected. I just forced the DOS OPL3SA utility so WSS couldn't work. Tried the game and everything was perfectly normal. So it could well be a resource issue. OR... it could be down to the sound utility used...? I remember with The Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall, if I tried to configure the sound canvas/General MIDI, when I had the sound card configured with SETYMF, it acted like there was no sound canvas/MIDI present. I kept getting an error. Once I switched over to Unisound, it worked.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 65 of 65, by DustyShinigami

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Problem solved! For some reason SETYMF wouldn't have it yesterday, then I came back and tried again, and the IRQ fired for both SB Pro and WSS, but the crash still happened. Experimented further and deleted the config file and now everything's configured correctly. Both SB Pro and WSS fire, the sound effect plays in MI1, no crash, and SETYMF detects and configures GM/the sound canvas for Daggerfall. 😀

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670