Did you check usenet?

Anonymous Coward wrote:

Did you check usenet?

I think they call it google groups these days.

No. Google Groups is just an archive of old usenet posts (like archive.org is for websites). Usenet is an internet service like www, ftp, irc, etc. Google has nothing to do with that.

derSammler wrote:

No. Google Groups is just an archive of old usenet posts (like archive.org is for websites). Usenet is an internet service like www, ftp, irc, etc. Google has nothing to do with that.

Well I would never have thought..........

Please note the sarcasm in case you missed it 😀

My understanding is that google groups archives all usenet posts. "Google began archiving Usenet posts for itself starting in the second week of August 2000."

Worth reading https://www.quora.com/Is-Usenet-dead

Anway the cool dudes use irc :p

I did a search for the OP but no matching results. Neither were there on DuckDuckGo or Bing. Zip on google as well. Those Cyrix DLC class chips were a bit odd. NT 3.51 might work. It'll be interesting to see how the OP gets on. I'd try it with my DLC but have no survicable 386 class mobos available unfortunately.

Windows NT minimum hardware requirements

Windows version CPU RAM Free disk space

NT 3.1 i386, 25 MHz 12 MB 90 MB
NT 3.1 Advanced Server i386, 25 MHz 16 MB 90 MB
NT 3.5 Workstation i386, 25 MHz 12 MB 90 MB
NT 3.5 Server i386, 25 MHz 16 MB 90 MB
NT 3.51 Workstation i386, 25 MHz 12 MB 90 MB
NT 3.51 Server i386, 25 MHz 16 MB 90 MB

NT 4.0 Workstation i486, 25 MHz 12 MB 124 MB
NT 4.0 Server i486, 25 MHz 16 MB 124 MB

Apart from the change in Ui NT 3.51 and NT4 are much the same as far as internals go.

Caluser2000 wrote:

Apart from the change in Ui NT 3.51 and NT4 are much the same as far as internals go.

And apparently there is a NT4 shell for NT 3.51. Still, my interest is in NT4 for curiosity, but the foremost issue is getting the Cyrix.exe cache software (and ps2suppc) loaded first, otherwise my SXL2-66 will perform like an ordinary cacheless 386 at 33 MHz. I am surprised that there isn't much information on this software and hardware combination. Were there more hits for NT 3.51 + DLC/SXL/DRx2 rather than for the NT4 combination?

No positive results at all I'm afraid. Turning on the speed doubling is the issue. You could may be able to have a dos fat16 partition, boot to it in Dos then enable clock doubling and caching then run NT. Have an extended partition for NTFS. I know it is possible to do similar with OS/2. The PS/2 mouse port shouldn't be an issue NT should pick that up.

Using a small fat16 partition to boot strap NT on MIPs and Alpha systems was the way things were done in the early NT days iirc.

Or even just enabling the L1 cache. Most old motherboards didn't have L1 cache support for the DLC.

Interesting project 😉 I might try it...

The challenge is getting your L1 cache and 2x mode enabled properly, which is done in DOS. See this other post for some ideas, Any way to run a DOS TSR program before loading Windows NT 4.0?

Did you see my message about GRUB for DOS? I believe you can use that to boot NT4 from a DOS prompt.

feipoa wrote:

The challenge is getting your L1 cache and 2x mode enabled properly, which is done in DOS. See this other post for some ideas, Any way to run a DOS TSR program before loading Windows NT 4.0?

I plan on using DRx2 or BL.

Yup.
Re: Any way to run a DOS TSR program before loading Windows NT 4.0?

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User Anonymous Coward mentioned using GRUB for DOS. Then load GRUB from the DOS prompt to load NT4. This way I can run ps2suppc […]
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User Anonymous Coward mentioned using GRUB for DOS. Then load GRUB from the DOS prompt to load NT4. This way I can run ps2suppc.com and cyrix.exe

http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/disk/ … fo/ar01s03.html

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12.3 Starting GRUB for DOS from DOS 
2You can use load GRUB for DOS in config.sys using one of the following lines:
3
4DEVICE=GRUB.EXE
5INSTALL=GRUB.EXE
6SHELL=GRUB.EXE
7grub.exe can also be launched from DOS prompt or batch file such as AUTOEXEC.BAT.

As this seems like it would require the least amount of effort, it is the GRUB is the first idea I intend to try. But first, I want to ensure I can install Win95c on my SXL2-66. If Win95 doesn't work, NT4 probably won't work. I have one of those SCSI2SD devices in this system. It has a 64 GB SD card in it and I can set it up such that there are numerous physical HDD's on it with different SCSI ID's. So my SCSI ID1 is an 8 GB drive, which has a 2 GB FAT partition for DOS/Windows, and a 2 GB FAT partition for storage. I could create another 2 GB partition, but I think you can only have one primary partition. So I am going to create another 8 GB hard drive on SCSI2SD using ID2, while disabling ID1. I want Win95c to be on a single 8 GB FAT32 partition. This is my goal for this evening.

kixs wrote:

feipoa wrote:

The challenge is getting your L1 cache and 2x mode enabled properly, which is done in DOS. See this other post for some ideas, Any way to run a DOS TSR program before loading Windows NT 4.0?

I plan on using DRx2 or BL.

But the DRx2 already has the flush circuit and 2x enabled, so it is a lot less of a challenge. Looking forward to your results.

This is what I mean with SCSI2SD. It can create up to 7 HDD's from a single microSD card.

W95c installing so far so good.

Windows 95C works quite well on both 386DX-40 and 486DLC-40. (I did install it for the Cpu-Z improvement contribution)

feipoa wrote:

SXL2-W95c_installation.jpg

That's a pretty sweet dark grey CD-ROM drive. What's up with the 5.25" FDD though? Why not move it up a panel?

feipoa wrote:

Or even just enabling the L1 cache. Most old motherboards didn't have L1 cache support for the DLC.

I had a similar issues in '96 when I needed to initialize a sound card in DOS to make it work in NT4.
What I did was to install DOS then NT4, so that both OS appear in the bootmenu.
In DOS I use some config with QEMM386 that has the QuickBoot feature. I run the DOS tools and do a warmstart. Due to QuickBoot the computer does not enter the BIOS but directly the NT4 bootmenu. Now I change to NT4 bootup and it uses the already configured state.

Edit: Just seen the posts about GRUB, which can do the same job but more convenient.

Like the QuikBoot idea. I've had a copy of QEM386 for ever an never had a real excuse to try it.

GigAHerZ wrote:

Windows 95C works quite well on both 386DX-40 and 486DLC-40. (I did install it for the Cpu-Z improvement contribution)

You were able to run CPU-Z on Win95c and a 386DX? I got a blue screen with SXL2/Win95c and CPU-Z. Re: Need help to improve the support of 486/586/686 class CPUs in CPU-Z