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Reply 20 of 31, by PC-Engineer

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The Radeon 8500 @275MHz takes the most advantage from the higher Clock to the GF3 Ti500 @250MHz. The performance relevant features (shaders and pipes) are nearly equal. But your 8500DV runs normally @200MHz. So a GF3 should be faster.

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Reply 21 of 31, by God Of Gaming

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yes, I am aware that my 8500dv is weaker than gf3, but I don't currently own a gf3, and Im of course on the lookout for one, but even more so, I am looking for 275mhz 8500... why are they so rare dammit

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Reply 22 of 31, by PC-Engineer

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You can try to overclock a 250MHz version with 4ns RAM to 275MHz. In the most cases you should be successful. There are some 250MHz cards with 3.6ns RAM which should surely fit the 275MHz.

Ahh, and currently in ebay germany is a Powercolor (AR2TD-B3) 8500 @275MHz for 60€. A good price in my opinion.

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Reply 23 of 31, by God Of Gaming

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I noticed it, and honestly I think the price is perhaps just a bit too much, especially since it seems to be a weird revision with 275mhz core but only 250mhz memory (sauce: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33646274 - 2nd post: "and AR2TD-B3L is 275/250"), also its a 64mb card, I really want a 128mb 275mhz 8500, since Im gonna play at 1600x1200, the extra vram will surely help. Which versions of the 8500 even have 128mb vram? Seems to be just the all-in-wonder 8500 (not DV) and the hercules 8500?

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Reply 25 of 31, by God Of Gaming

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Some ebay stuff got delivered today, among them an ati radeon 8500 64mb with hopefully the full 275mhz clocks. Also I'm not so sure if thats the fastest 2001 gpu anymore, Phil's benchmarks found it to be, but Im not sure what driver he used for the GF3, we all know later drivers make it slower. I managed to find a reasonably cheap Ti500 and I'm waiting for its delivery as well, I'll try to compare them for myself and whichever I find to be the fastest goes into the build

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Reply 29 of 31, by God Of Gaming

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yes, which wasn't a problem as I can just tie an 80-120mm fan to the card that will cover all the heatsinks.... the problem is that I tested it just now, and it's a dud 🙁 seems to be shorting something because PC won't power on while this card is inserted 🙁

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Reply 31 of 31, by zPacKRat

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PC-Engineer wrote on 2020-06-04, 18:35:

You can try to overclock a 250MHz version with 4ns RAM to 275MHz. In the most cases you should be successful. There are some 250MHz cards with 3.6ns RAM which should surely fit the 275MHz.

Ahh, and currently in ebay germany is a Powercolor (AR2TD-B3) 8500 @275MHz for 60€. A good price in my opinion.

This 100%, that's what I did with my LE back in the day.