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Reply 27680 of 45388, by retardware

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Thank you very much!

The explanation is very interesting.
Fully agree with the conclusions, can understand the admins.

Anyway back to topic...

Today bought an AHA-1542C for my ISA freeclocker,
Paid 15 Euros, 🤣.
Long ago at a big clearout I sold several of those for 9 euros iirc.
Prices have risen over the years...

Reply 27681 of 45388, by doaks80

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retardware wrote:

The explanation is very interesting.
Fully agree with the conclusions, can understand the admins.

I don't disagree totally with the reasoning, but I think a good compromise would be an eBay thread (lets be honest its mostly all on eBay) where no replies/comments are allowed, just original posts of great deals. Obviously it would be a target for spam, but hey, better there than in the rest of the forum.

And what is the greater evil....a bit of forum spam or scumbag traders stealing all the good deals?

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Reply 27682 of 45388, by Anonymous Coward

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Ok, thanks! Didn't know that.. what were they used on?

I believe these came out of some kind of mobile device. Feipoa bought a bunch a year or two ago. He had to use quite a bit of wire wrap to get them working in a standard board.

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Reply 27683 of 45388, by feipoa

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wirerogue wrote:
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ebay seller had 31 of them and they all sold in less than 24 hours at $30 + $5 shipping

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mine arrived today. looks brand new. haven't tested it out yet.

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did anyone else here get one?

At that price, he was practically giving them away. The last two GF4 AGP cards I picked up had some kind of flaws, corrupt pixels before loading the driver, or after the driver was loaded. After that experience, I shyed away from GF4 cards and decided to be content with my Ti4400.

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Reply 27684 of 45388, by feipoa

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doaks80 wrote:
retardware wrote:

The explanation is very interesting.
Fully agree with the conclusions, can understand the admins.

I don't disagree totally with the reasoning, but I think a good compromise would be an eBay thread (lets be honest its mostly all on eBay) where no replies/comments are allowed, just original posts of great deals. Obviously it would be a target for spam, but hey, better there than in the rest of the forum.

And what is the greater evil....a bit of forum spam or scumbag traders stealing all the good deals?

How about a thread which tries to gauge [sold] fair market value for rare or expensive vintage computer hardware? Market value for popular or rare classic computer hardware

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Reply 27685 of 45388, by wirerogue

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SpectriaForce wrote:
wirerogue wrote:
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ebay seller had 31 of them and they all sold in less than 24 hours at $30 + $5 shipping

mine arrived today. looks brand new. haven't tested it out yet.

did anyone else here get one?

Nice find. If you replace the electrolytic capacitors (the others are probably fine) and the cooler with a Zalman, then this can be a reliable and silent card.

Btw, it seems that some traders stepped in, one person has even bought 10 of them 😀

the only problem now is i have to figure out what to do with my msi starforce822 geforce3 that i just bought last week for $35 and haven't even installed yet. it's pretty nice too i think.

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Reply 27686 of 45388, by wiretap

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wirerogue wrote:
pny geforce4 ti4600 […]
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pny geforce4 ti4600

ebay seller had 31 of them and they all sold in less than 24 hours at $30 + $5 shipping

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mine arrived today. looks brand new. haven't tested it out yet.

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did anyone else here get one?

I did. Completely corrupted.. wouldn't make it past the POST screen without causing the system to hang. Already returned for a refund.

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Reply 27687 of 45388, by feipoa

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wiretap wrote:

I did. Completely corrupted.. wouldn't make it past the POST screen without causing the system to hang. Already returned for a refund.

feipoa wrote:

The last two GF4 AGP cards I picked up had some kind of flaws, corrupt pixels before loading the driver, or after the driver was loaded. After that experience, I shyed away from GF4 cards...

Not surprised. Anyone else?

I recently had the same issue trying to source an AGP Pro card, the ATI FireGL X1 256M. Same type of issues. After 4 cards, I gave up. Anyone with an ATI FireGL X1 256M AGPPro?

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Reply 27688 of 45388, by God Of Gaming

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Why are they dying so much? I have a Quadro equivalent of the Ti4600, with the small stock heatsink, and it doesnt seem to run particularly hot under load, so its not because of heat issues, is it?

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Reply 27689 of 45388, by frudi

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I got a quad of 'for parts only' intel 486 CPUs on ebay recently and they finally arrived:

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It took a bit of time to straighten out all the pins and especially to scrape the rock-hard glue/cement off the DX2 chip. But finally, after testing them, they all seem to work just fine 😀

Reply 27690 of 45388, by liqmat

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frudi wrote:
I got a quad of 'for parts only' intel 486 CPUs on ebay recently and they finally arrived: […]
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I got a quad of 'for parts only' intel 486 CPUs on ebay recently and they finally arrived:

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It took a bit of time to straighten out all the pins and especially to scrape the rock-hard glue/cement off the DX2 chip. But finally, after testing them, they all seem to work just fine 😀

Straightening pins out on CPUs can be hair raising at times. Glad you were successful and everything worked.

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Reply 27691 of 45388, by retardware

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God Of Gaming wrote:

Why are they dying so much? I have a Quadro equivalent of the Ti4600, with the small stock heatsink, and it doesnt seem to run particularly hot under load, so its not because of heat issues, is it?

We all know that processors are different, even on the same die.
Due to the inevitable variations there are different qualities.
Specimens that are good, draw little current (or in other words, leak energy) and switch faster than others.

For this reason we know that there of the same processor type there are more or less numerous variations in (optimum) voltage and clock limit.

However on GPUs there is no such "individual treatment".
But how do the GPU manufacturers deal with the inevitably varying qualities of the production output?

So my suspicion is that good chips that do not run hot (compared to the majority) are being used for passive cards,
and the best ones, those which in addition can serve at high clock, go to the premium cards,
Finally, on the other end of the quality spectrum, the worst chips (slow, developing much heat) go to cheap cards with massive fan coolers.

This is my personal speculation.
So I suspect that possibly this "NOS stock" actually might be some old returns leftover that got rediscovered and sold for a very low price to get rid of it quickly.

Reply 27692 of 45388, by twilliamc

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I received my replacement pf caps yesterday night. I replaced the one missing (what I guessed was a) 33pf tantalum capacitor. C32 was split in half before I started cleaning and fell apart after.

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I was able to get my AT kayboard working with the flip of a switch to XT. I am in the process of creating some boot disks with my 486. I still have more cleaning to do on the board, but I am thrilled with the progress so far. I am a little worried about the VGA card I put in. It's output does not look very sharp on the CRT and it goes dim sometimes when the XT attempts to seek the floppy disk.

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Reply 27693 of 45388, by GigAHerZ

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twilliamc wrote:

It's output does not look very sharp on the CRT and it goes dim sometimes when the XT attempts to seek the floppy disk.

Replace/fix the power supply! The voltages are probably way off, especially, when on load of floppy drive...

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Reply 27694 of 45388, by arncht

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finally! datapath e1s capture card, the capture is from my mmx pc (1997).

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Reply 27695 of 45388, by appiah4

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arncht wrote:

finally! datapath e1s capture card, the capture is from my mmx pc (1997).

Does it capture through DVI? You have DVI Out on your MMX PC?

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Reply 27696 of 45388, by wirerogue

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wiretap wrote:
I did. Completely corrupted.. wouldn't make it past the POST screen without causing the system to hang. Already returned for a r […]
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wirerogue wrote:
pny geforce4 ti4600 […]
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pny geforce4 ti4600

ebay seller had 31 of them and they all sold in less than 24 hours at $30 + $5 shipping

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mine arrived today. looks brand new. haven't tested it out yet.

geforce4.jpg

did anyone else here get one?

I did. Completely corrupted.. wouldn't make it past the POST screen without causing the system to hang. Already returned for a refund.

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oh man, that's a bummer. 🙁 i will be testing mine this evening.

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Reply 27697 of 45388, by arncht

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appiah4 wrote:
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finally! datapath e1s capture card, the capture is from my mmx pc (1997).

Does it capture through DVI? You have DVI Out on your MMX PC?

yep, in this case dvi-a with converter 😀 win95 1024x768

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Reply 27698 of 45388, by appiah4

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arncht wrote:
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arncht wrote:

finally! datapath e1s capture card, the capture is from my mmx pc (1997).

Does it capture through DVI? You have DVI Out on your MMX PC?

yep, in this case dvi-a with converter 😀 win95 1024x768

Oh so it accepts analogue video over DVI? Fantastic.

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Reply 27699 of 45388, by arncht

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i dont want two displays - i am curious, how big is the lag, if i loop my retropcs to the capturecard.

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