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First post, by Macca70

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Hi all

I recently came across 2x 3dfx cards in a couple job lots of old pc parts for next to nothing and want to make a more period correct build than my current P4/GF4 system , I never owned a Voodoo 3 back in the day going from a P1/voodoo 1 to celery 300a/ PIII voodoo 2 then sli then moved to GF2/3/4 and Ati 9800 cards later so I really want to build one around the V3 3000 AGP one I have.
So anyway , I started looking around at boards and cpu's etc and of course the AGP 3.3v issue comes up and I think I'm just looking for advice on what you reckon would be best suited , an i815 P3 or an Athlon Socket A and really any recommendations for particular boards because looking at the socket A boards especially it seems like a minefield as to what supports AGP 3.3v and what doesn't , even when they have what looks like a Universal AGP slot they don't necessarily support 3.3v after looking in the manuals online.
Like I said , I never came across this issue at the time due to never having a V3 agp , it's a risk getting these parts because I have no idea if it even works yet as I have no way of testing it , the PCI v3 2000 works just fine so if it ends in disaster I can just use that I suppose.
This was the joblot I got in the pics below (ignore the GF4 , that's out of my p4 98se build when I swapped it with the V3 2000 pci to test it)
Also , as you'll notice the PCI Brackets are missing from the V3 cards , I have no idea why , I know it's a stretch but any idea where I might get some from or maybe someone has come across a direct fit from another old card ?
I could quite easily make one with a bit of drill/ dremel time but it's never gonna really look right is it ?

Thanks
Lee

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Build 1
Win98se
Dell Dimension XPS B866r
1.0ghz PIII
512mb 800mhz Rdram
Asus GF2 Ti 64mb

Build 2
XP System
Lian Li PC65 USB
Athlon 64 x2 4800+
Asus A8N SLI Premium
2gb Corsair XMS 2
Asus 6600GT 256mb

Reply 1 of 6, by luk1999

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Macca70 wrote on 2021-09-18, 12:58:

or an Athlon Socket A and really any recommendations for particular boards because looking at the socket A boards especially it seems like a minefield as to what supports AGP 3.3v and what doesn't , even when they have what looks like a Universal AGP slot they don't necessarily support 3.3v after looking in the manuals online.

Well, it's rather simple. All VIA KX133, KT133, KT133A, KT266, KT266A and SiS 735 motherboards will support 3,3 V cards. Forget about NForce2, VIA KT400 or newer.
KT266A is preferable if you're looking for best performance. If you need ISA slot, then you should look for KX/KT133(A) based boards (SDRAM only).
If you'll go socket A path, then use PSU with strong +5V rail (at least 30 amps).

Pentium 4 2400 + ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe + 2 GB RAM + GF FX5700 128 MB AGP + SB Audigy + Chieftec GPS-400AA-101A + Win XP SP2
Duron 1000 + Soltek SL-75DRV4 + 256 MB RAM + Voodoo 3 2000 16 MB AGP + FM801 + FSP 400-60PFN + Win 98SE

Reply 3 of 6, by BitWrangler

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There's some NLX format video cards have the VGA hole high on the bracket... they have a long bottom bracket to pcb, but you can cut that off short and drill it if it meets the hole on the voodoo.

What I usually steal brackets off are modems, the hole is a bit too big side to side, but it makes it easy to get a nibbler in to enlarge it up or down.. when it's mounted you see a bit of a gap, but I don't care personally.

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Reply 4 of 6, by cyclone3d

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For KT133A boards, the Abit KT7A is pretty much the best. With a modified BIOS you can run the Barton core CPUs and the mobile CPUs are good for this board. To get the higher multiplier support, a simple socket wire mod is the way to go.

Be prepared to replace the capacitors on this era of boards though.

There is another option but it is very rare.. the Biostar M7MIA. It is the only socket a board with ISA that uses DDR RAM.

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Reply 5 of 6, by meljor

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I have used the brackets from a tnt diamond viper v550 card, perfect fit for voodoo3 and they are faitlrly common around here.

And yes, kt400 and up is not compatible, kt333 can be tricky and from kt266a and down it's save for 3,3v agp. More is not needed, you can max out a v3 on a later p3 or early Athlon at 800x600 and up. At 640x480 it scales pretty high but p4/late Athlon is overkill.

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Reply 6 of 6, by Macca70

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Absolutely brilliant , thanks very much for the replies , very much appreciated.
I have options to look for now and the info about PCI brackets is very helpful , can't thank you enough.
No rush , I'll wait it out until I find what I want , this build will be a keeper , thanks so much. 👍

Lee

Build 1
Win98se
Dell Dimension XPS B866r
1.0ghz PIII
512mb 800mhz Rdram
Asus GF2 Ti 64mb

Build 2
XP System
Lian Li PC65 USB
Athlon 64 x2 4800+
Asus A8N SLI Premium
2gb Corsair XMS 2
Asus 6600GT 256mb