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HWiNFO for DOS resurrected !

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Reply 700 of 808, by Mumak

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sprcorreia wrote on 2021-09-20, 13:38:

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The gpu/mem clocks reported are read from the cards or is it some sort of fixed values fom a database?

Depends on GPU. For those where it can be read using software and the method is known, it's reported from GPU registers. For some rather old (S)VGAs the clocks can't be read or are fixed, so if they use fixed clocks it's reported from a DB.
Need to know the exact GPU model to tell.

Reply 701 of 808, by sprcorreia

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Mumak wrote on 2021-09-20, 14:15:
sprcorreia wrote on 2021-09-20, 13:38:

@Mumak

The gpu/mem clocks reported are read from the cards or is it some sort of fixed values fom a database?

Depends on GPU. For those where it can be read using software and the method is known, it's reported from GPU registers. For some rather old (S)VGAs the clocks can't be read or are fixed, so if they use fixed clocks it's reported from a DB.
Need to know the exact GPU model to tell.

Rage 128 /Rage 128 Pro?

Reply 702 of 808, by Mumak

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sprcorreia wrote on 2021-09-20, 14:42:
Mumak wrote on 2021-09-20, 14:15:
sprcorreia wrote on 2021-09-20, 13:38:

@Mumak

The gpu/mem clocks reported are read from the cards or is it some sort of fixed values fom a database?

Depends on GPU. For those where it can be read using software and the method is known, it's reported from GPU registers. For some rather old (S)VGAs the clocks can't be read or are fixed, so if they use fixed clocks it's reported from a DB.
Need to know the exact GPU model to tell.

Rage 128 /Rage 128 Pro?

Here the clocks are read from GPU clock control registers.

Reply 703 of 808, by PC@LIVE

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Hello an info on the fly.
I restarted a 386SX and I was wondering: can your program work?
I remember that it goes on the 386 but I don't know if it works on the 386SX, this being quite similar to a 286 (ie 16 bit instead of the 32 of the 386).
If it is possible I would like to try it these days, I currently have 2MB of ram, but if necessary I can easily bring it to 4MB by adding two other 1MB 30pin RAMs.

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 704 of 808, by Mumak

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-10-03, 20:54:
Hello an info on the fly. I restarted a 386SX and I was wondering: can your program work? I remember that it goes on the 386 but […]
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Hello an info on the fly.
I restarted a 386SX and I was wondering: can your program work?
I remember that it goes on the 386 but I don't know if it works on the 386SX, this being quite similar to a 286 (ie 16 bit instead of the 32 of the 386).
If it is possible I would like to try it these days, I currently have 2MB of ram, but if necessary I can easily bring it to 4MB by adding two other 1MB 30pin RAMs.

It will work on 386SX as the instruction set is important. 2MB might fit, but you'll need to try.

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Mumak wrote on 2021-10-03, 21:48:
PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-10-03, 20:54:
Hello an info on the fly. I restarted a 386SX and I was wondering: can your program work? I remember that it goes on the 386 but […]
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Hello an info on the fly.
I restarted a 386SX and I was wondering: can your program work?
I remember that it goes on the 386 but I don't know if it works on the 386SX, this being quite similar to a 286 (ie 16 bit instead of the 32 of the 386).
If it is possible I would like to try it these days, I currently have 2MB of ram, but if necessary I can easily bring it to 4MB by adding two other 1MB 30pin RAMs.

It will work on 386SX as the instruction set is important. 2MB might fit, but you'll need to try.

OK thanks for the info.
I connected the CF-IDE adapter that I use on the old-PC, the CF card is only 8MB, but despite this it is sufficient for starting some DOS programs.
HWinfo started up, a bit slowly because the Turbo is off (I guess), but it completed the various tests and created the files (which I attach).
But I have to find the definitive configuration, for this 386SX, I was thinking of adding an ISA sound card and another 2MB of RAM, I don't think the addition of the coprocessor is necessary, but it depends on the software that I will be able to use, if they require it to speed up processing , I might add it.

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  • Filename
    HWINFO.zip
    File size
    5.21 KiB
    Downloads
    11 downloads
    File license
    Public domain

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 706 of 808, by Mumak

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-10-05, 19:46:
OK thanks for the info. I connected the CF-IDE adapter that I use on the old-PC, the CF card is only 8MB, but despite this it is […]
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Mumak wrote on 2021-10-03, 21:48:
PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-10-03, 20:54:
Hello an info on the fly. I restarted a 386SX and I was wondering: can your program work? I remember that it goes on the 386 but […]
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Hello an info on the fly.
I restarted a 386SX and I was wondering: can your program work?
I remember that it goes on the 386 but I don't know if it works on the 386SX, this being quite similar to a 286 (ie 16 bit instead of the 32 of the 386).
If it is possible I would like to try it these days, I currently have 2MB of ram, but if necessary I can easily bring it to 4MB by adding two other 1MB 30pin RAMs.

It will work on 386SX as the instruction set is important. 2MB might fit, but you'll need to try.

OK thanks for the info.
I connected the CF-IDE adapter that I use on the old-PC, the CF card is only 8MB, but despite this it is sufficient for starting some DOS programs.
HWinfo started up, a bit slowly because the Turbo is off (I guess), but it completed the various tests and created the files (which I attach).
But I have to find the definitive configuration, for this 386SX, I was thinking of adding an ISA sound card and another 2MB of RAM, I don't think the addition of the coprocessor is necessary, but it depends on the software that I will be able to use, if they require it to speed up processing , I might add it.

Nice to see it working well on such system 😀 Thanks for the report !

Reply 707 of 808, by PC@LIVE

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Mumak wrote on 2021-10-05, 20:10:
PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-10-05, 19:46:
OK thanks for the info. I connected the CF-IDE adapter that I use on the old-PC, the CF card is only 8MB, but despite this it is […]
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Mumak wrote on 2021-10-03, 21:48:

It will work on 386SX as the instruction set is important. 2MB might fit, but you'll need to try.

OK thanks for the info.
I connected the CF-IDE adapter that I use on the old-PC, the CF card is only 8MB, but despite this it is sufficient for starting some DOS programs.
HWinfo started up, a bit slowly because the Turbo is off (I guess), but it completed the various tests and created the files (which I attach).
But I have to find the definitive configuration, for this 386SX, I was thinking of adding an ISA sound card and another 2MB of RAM, I don't think the addition of the coprocessor is necessary, but it depends on the software that I will be able to use, if they require it to speed up processing , I might add it.

Nice to see it working well on such system 😀 Thanks for the report !

You're welcome.
I thought it didn't work because it is quite similar to a 286, but I don't know at this point I should boot up my 286 and try it out. Maybe it works there too, the PC is in signature, from 16MHz and FPU 287 from 10MHz.
Unfortunately I don't have an XT, I would like to rebuild one but I haven't found any bargains or donations like that, the prices for that kind of motherboard are pretty crazy.

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 709 of 808, by PC@LIVE

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Mumak wrote on 2021-10-05, 20:58:

Sorry, but 286 won't work. 386 is the minimum instruction set required for HWiNFO.

Thanks for the info.
I restarted the 286 unfortunately after a while it turned off, I found the power supply faulty, it is of a particular type (very similar to the AT), finding a spare one is I would say impossible, perhaps the solution in case of replacement is to adapt it a modern one of similar size, but it would be better if it had the -5V and -12V outputs.
In the next few days I will try to restart a Pentium 60 (SKT4), if it starts up, I will put the files here.

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 710 of 808, by PC@LIVE

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Eventually after several attempts I solved, I managed to boot the Pentium 60 from HD.
Obviously I connected the usual Cf of only 8MB with Dos 4.01 and I started the HWInfo program, it gave a problem creating the files via option -r -d, it stopped, but in any case it created both files (which I attach) .
I don't know the reason for the block but the PC has no additional cards other than the SiS VGA PCI, the integrated CL GD5434 should be disabled as it is not powered (P10 connector absent in the power supply).
the only thing present is the ISA POST CARD but I don't think it can disturb the functioning.

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  • Filename
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AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB

Reply 714 of 808, by Mumak

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mbsystem wrote on 2021-10-10, 09:10:

Hi! Just for info, v6.15 freeze on Dosbox 0.74 at Info Peripheral Checking w7/8 @ 250 . It not show Super IO Chip: Unknown
and Keyboard Controller: N/A

Please attach the Debug File produced when you run HWINFO -d. Also do you know what SIO is on that board?

Reply 715 of 808, by mbsystem

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The debug files are here. I don't know anything else.

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Reply 716 of 808, by Mumak

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mbsystem wrote on 2021-10-10, 10:24:

The debug files are here. I don't know anything else.

Thanks. Do you know what the mainboard is?
The CPU is also a bit strange - it supports CPUID instruction but CPU ID = 0402. Such early IDs didn't support CPUID. What is it?

Reply 717 of 808, by mbsystem

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It's the CPU reported in the good old DOSBox SVN-Daum 20140127. See Attachment.

The host is Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5500U CPU @ 2.40GHz
AIDA64 report the real cpu : Broadwell-U/Y

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Reply 718 of 808, by Mumak

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Ah, this is a virtual environment. Sorry, but I'm not going to support this as it's not real hardware and will behave depending on how the VMM is written. It makes no sense to run a hardware detection tool on such system other than testing how well the virtualization is implemented.

Reply 719 of 808, by PC@LIVE

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PC@LIVE wrote on 2021-10-10, 21:01:
I tried the latest version of the program, and on the P60 it works fine, that is, it doesn't crash. I think it is quite similar […]
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I tried the latest version of the program, and on the P60 it works fine, that is, it doesn't crash.
I think it is quite similar to the previous one that I have used so far, I would not want to have to restart the PCs where I had tried the ver. 6.1.4
Of course I did recreate the files I attach.
In the meantime I have added an ISA sound card and a PCI LAN to the P60, and I am using a 512MB CF to load a period OS (circa 1993-1994), so also a W3.1.

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  • Filename
    HWINFo 6.1.5.zip
    File size
    10.76 KiB
    Downloads
    10 downloads
    File license
    Public domain

AMD 286-16 287-10 4MB HD 45MB VGA 256KB
AMD 386DX-40 Intel 387 8MB HD 81MB VGA 256KB
Cyrix 486DLC-40 IIT387-40 8MB VGA 512KB
AMD 5X86-133 16MB VGA VLB CL5428 2MB and many others
AMD K62+ 550 SOYO 5EMA+ and many others
AST Pentium Pro 200 MHz L2 256KB