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First post, by rain

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hi ive NVIDIA GEFORCE4 MX4000 card. installed nvidia_9x_56.64 drivers but all Thief games including 1-2 not work. gives me black screen. but other games like fifa 2001 , motocross madness2 works fine. is this card has problems with thief games? thanks

Reply 1 of 9, by smtkr

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Those games are finicky. I've had this issue with a Geforce 2 and then it resolved after an OS reinstall (which likely wasn't the issue because I might have used different drivers between installs and possible different DirectX versions too). I know that's not very helpful, but if the card works fine for other stuff, you probably have some software issue, so start experimenting. Also, if you can, use Windows XP.

Reply 3 of 9, by Joseph_Joestar

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rain wrote on 2024-06-27, 16:36:

hi ive NVIDIA GEFORCE4 MX4000 card. installed nvidia_9x_56.64 drivers but all Thief games including 1-2 not work. gives me black screen. but other games like fifa 2001 , motocross madness2 works fine. is this card has problems with thief games? thanks

From what I remember, Thief 2 doesn't like Nvidia drivers higher than 45.23 under Win9x.

However, this tweak should be able to solve the issue.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Core 2 Duo E8600 / Foxconn P35AX-S / X800 / Audigy2 ZS
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 980Ti / X-Fi Titanium

Reply 4 of 9, by rain

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2024-06-28, 06:41:
rain wrote on 2024-06-27, 16:36:

hi ive NVIDIA GEFORCE4 MX4000 card. installed nvidia_9x_56.64 drivers but all Thief games including 1-2 not work. gives me black screen. but other games like fifa 2001 , motocross madness2 works fine. is this card has problems with thief games? thanks

From what I remember, Thief 2 doesn't like Nvidia drivers higher than 45.23 under Win9x.

However, this tweak should be able to solve the issue.

45.23 is not for mx4000 . cant install

Reply 5 of 9, by Joseph_Joestar

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rain wrote on 2024-06-28, 06:46:

45.23 is not for mx4000 . cant install

Looks like you did't read the thread that I linked to.

That tweak solves the issue on Nvidia drivers from the 50.xx series.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Core 2 Duo E8600 / Foxconn P35AX-S / X800 / Audigy2 ZS
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 980Ti / X-Fi Titanium

Reply 6 of 9, by rain

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2024-06-28, 06:49:
rain wrote on 2024-06-28, 06:46:

45.23 is not for mx4000 . cant install

Looks like you did't read the thread that I linked to.

That tweak solves the issue on Nvidia drivers from the 50.xx series.

you mean this?

"" For me 53.04 works fine with thief2, dx8.0 and my FX5900 Ultra if 'safe texture manager' in the user.cfg is active (remove the semicolon in front of it), with it disabled I get the black screen you mentioned. Give it a try. ""

Reply 7 of 9, by Joseph_Joestar

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rain wrote on 2024-06-28, 07:03:

you mean this?

"" For me 53.04 works fine with thief2, dx8.0 and my FX5900 Ultra if 'safe texture manager' in the user.cfg is active (remove the semicolon in front of it), with it disabled I get the black screen you mentioned. Give it a try. ""

Yes, that's it.

That tweak worked for me and a few other people in the linked thread.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Core 2 Duo E8600 / Foxconn P35AX-S / X800 / Audigy2 ZS
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 980Ti / X-Fi Titanium

Reply 8 of 9, by rain

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Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2024-06-28, 07:39:
rain wrote on 2024-06-28, 07:03:

you mean this?

"" For me 53.04 works fine with thief2, dx8.0 and my FX5900 Ultra if 'safe texture manager' in the user.cfg is active (remove the semicolon in front of it), with it disabled I get the black screen you mentioned. Give it a try. ""

Yes, that's it.

That tweak worked for me and a few other people in the linked thread.

where is " user.cfg "

Reply 9 of 9, by Joseph_Joestar

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rain wrote on 2024-06-28, 08:13:

where is " user.cfg "

It's a Thief 2 configuration file, and it can be found inside the folder where that game is installed.

PC#1: Pentium MMX 166 / Soyo SY-5BT / S3 Trio64V+ / Voodoo1 / YMF719 / AWE64 Gold / SC-155
PC#2: AthlonXP 2100+ / ECS K7VTA3 / Voodoo3 / Audigy2 / Vortex2
PC#3: Core 2 Duo E8600 / Foxconn P35AX-S / X800 / Audigy2 ZS
PC#4: i5-3570K / MSI Z77A-G43 / GTX 980Ti / X-Fi Titanium