chinny22 wrote on 2024-07-15, 00:24:

Your P3 750 is already pretty powerful Win9x box. The missing AGP sucks but if it's playing all your other games fine then it's no big deal.
Rather then having 2 Win98 PC's I would focus on a XP PC, Hardware will be cheaper and easier to find and probably you're more demanding 9x games like Halo will run fine in XP as well.
Plus it opens up the next generation of games as well

My p3 is in my parents house, I live in the other side of the state , so I decided to build
One where I live, I thought an xp machine too but most of the games will already be for win98

ah 2 different locations, duplication isn't so much an issue then.
While the S775/NV6800GT doesn't make for the perfect Win98 rig
Given it's not your primary Win98 rig, Budget, and Halo Requirement I'd agree it makes good sense here.
Most games will be find and the few older titles that don't like the GF6 you just play at home rather than your parents.

chinny22 wrote on 2024-07-15, 02:48:

ah 2 different locations, duplication isn't so much an issue then. While the S775/NV6800GT doesn't make for the perfect Win98 ri […]
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ah 2 different locations, duplication isn't so much an issue then.
While the S775/NV6800GT doesn't make for the perfect Win98 rig
Given it's not your primary Win98 rig, Budget, and Halo Requirement I'd agree it makes good sense here.
Most games will be find and the few older titles that don't like the GF6 you just play at home rather than your parents.

It can be legitimate, in certain situations. Because of this, i edited the S775/NV6800GT system by putting it in Matrox Mill G200 PCI 😀

For speed-sensitive old titles, the proci can be reduced up to XT with CPUSpd. Just like Ryzen Madness machine.

I have some 775 mobos with e7500 here in my parents ( I think I even have and core2quad) and ddr2 memories and a gt9400, I will try to build it and see if it works fine, but anyway I think I will try to hunt down some p4 and build something similar that a cool guy sended here( my gf liked the ideia and want to build something too) and in my house I have an 4th gen i7, I think I will take this gt9400 and install xp on this i7

Monketech wrote on 2024-07-15, 04:11:

I have some 775 mobos with e7500 here in my parents ( I think I even have and core2quad) and ddr2 memories and a gt9400, I will try to build it and see if it works fine, but anyway I think I will try to hunt down some p4 and build something similar that a cool guy sended here( my gf liked the ideia and want to build something too) and in my house I have an 4th gen i7, I think I will take this gt9400 and install xp on this i7

4th gen i7 : for Haswell is already spec edited XP need. An editor exist, but I can't link it, it's forbidden here, once for my link, deleted for moderator.
But it can be installed, pld with Haswell Xeon/XP 2 video card :

Monketech wrote on 2024-07-13, 04:04:

VivienM wrote on 2024-07-12, 00:40:

Monketech wrote on 2024-07-11, 22:12:

The only decent looking motherboard I found for p4 was an Asus P5VDC-MX with agp slot, can I run 98 and play some dos game and “newer” games like halo ? Or the Pentium 4 is too much for win98 to be easy on compatibility?

I don't know if you want that board, it's a Via chipset...

Having tried to build a Win98 system on a similar vintage AMD platform with a similar southbridge (maybe not the exact same), all I will say is - go PATA. I went absolutely nowhere while having any SATA devices; turn off the SATA and use all PATA devices and it works fine(ish). 98SE is very, very picky about expecting an IDE controller at particular memory addresses...

So VIA chipsets are trouble, which one should I search? Is SiS chipset good?

VIA chipsets were not that bad; 3 out of 5 of my systems that could run Win98SE were based on VIA chipsets. If you wanted a motherboard with both AGP 8x and full Win9x support after June 2004 -- when Intel announced 915P chipset and LGA 775 socket, along with PCIe and DDR2 support -- then VIA was probably your only choice. Personally I wouldn't recommend SiS chipsets as a target to look for: they were neither common nor particularly good.

On the other hand, I wouldn't recommend Asus P5VDC-MX for Win98SE gaming for another reason: it could only accept a very narrow range of Prescott in 775, arguably the most disliked era of Intel processors (which probably makes it cheaper for purchase today). It could accept neither the older but cooler Northwood (except two very rare Gallatin Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.40 and 3.46), nor the newer and much more efficient Core family.

Monketech wrote on 2024-07-15, 04:11:

I have some 775 mobos with e7500 here in my parents ( I think I even have and core2quad) and ddr2 memories and a gt9400, I will try to build it and see if it works fine, but anyway I think I will try to hunt down some p4 and build something similar that a cool guy sended here( my gf liked the ideia and want to build something too) and in my house I have an 4th gen i7, I think I will take this gt9400 and install xp on this i7

Well, if I were you I'd make a complete list of whatever components I already had (especially MB, CPU, and graphic cards) before building another retro rig.

I got a lot of hardware in my parents house bc it was parts of my father drugstore, he upgraded everything to i5s, but I will build an p4 478 and Radeon 9600 ( I found some parts for cheap) and I will build an xp machine with the parts I already have in my parents and let the xp machine here
So the p4 will be at my house ( other side of the country)
And my p3 and Xp at my parents
It would be really difficult to move one pc to another place

Monketech wrote on 2024-07-15, 13:09:

I got a lot of hardware in my parents house bc it was parts of my father drugstore, he upgraded everything to i5s, but I will bu […]
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I got a lot of hardware in my parents house bc it was parts of my father drugstore, he upgraded everything to i5s, but I will build an p4 478 and Radeon 9600 ( I found some parts for cheap) and I will build an xp machine with the parts I already have in my parents and let the xp machine here
So the p4 will be at my house ( other side of the country)
And my p3 and Xp at my parents
It would be really difficult to move one pc to another place

Just pretend it's like the good old day of LAN parties 😀

I have one of my P3's at my parents house. I have way more reto PC's then I really need so makes sense to keep one there.
It was meant to allow dad to play NFS, but don't think he really uses it, where as I do from time to time.

Ok guys, sorry to resurrect this post but I got a Socket A motherboard from a friend, the manufacturer is a bit shitty, it’s a Pcchips M863G with a SiS chipset, it is worth it to build something with this or no? Which processor should I get, it came with a Sempron so I think I would need to get a Athlon or a XP

I would build it and see how well it goes, no point spending money unnecessarily on a PC that will spend most its time in a different location to where you are.

hi guys! i got back to my house (the city i do college) and found a really cheap powermac g4 ( about 40bucks) two days later i was looking marketplace and THEN i found a dell Dimension 4550 for about 5 bucks , i used it for the 98 build , i has a p4 1.8ghz, ati rage 128ultra,a sound blaster 5.1 that im having some problems and 1gb ram
it turns out the build was really cheap thanks to luck and facebook

Monketech wrote on 2024-08-05, 22:56:

hi guys! i got back to my house (the city i do college) and found a really cheap powermac g4 ( about 40bucks) two days later i was looking marketplace and THEN i found a dell Dimension 4550 for about 5 bucks , i used it for the 98 build , i has a p4 1.8ghz, ati rage 128ultra,a sound blaster 5.1 that im having some problems and 1gb ram
it turns out the build was really cheap thanks to luck and facebook

Rage 128 Ultra?!? That sounds... several years older than a P4. Maybe pick up a GF4 MX or similar?

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Rage 128 Ultra?!? That sounds... several years older than a P4. Maybe pick up a GF4 MX or similar?
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It is 3 year older then the p4 it have, I thinking placing a Radeon 9600, but my first problem is the ram bc I can’t limit to 512mb and the sound blaster 5.1 that actually an OEM dell version with less features, and it actually working with most games but not with the screamers game

Monketech wrote on 2024-08-06, 00:16:

Rage 128 Ultra?!? That sounds... several years older than a P4. Maybe pick up a GF4 MX or similar?
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It is 3 year older then the p4 it have, I thinking placing a Radeon 9600, but my first problem is the ram bc I can’t limit to 512mb and the sound blaster 5.1 that actually an OEM dell version with less features, and it actually working with most games but not with the screamers game
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ram bc I can’t limit to 512mb : Loew RAMdriver
sound blaster 5.1 that actually an OEM dell version : SB0220 - It works well under DOS/WIN98, of too Screamers ofcourse .
Dos/win98 is already hard to find a title that would not go, as the old machine is basically a reason and a new machine has written all modern repairs. The given iron must be properly installed.

its a SB0200, evertime i go to the auto detect in the screamer rally or any other the game just crashes, and the ram i tried to limit on MSconfig but everytime i reset the pc , it boots himself without video driver and says it was not supported or something like that

how i use the RAMdriver ? just run the exe?

SB0200 other cards, less supported, destroyed version. Loew Driver: Pre-installation with 512MB RAM machine, or insert CAB File-The author includes the description.

Monketech wrote on 2024-08-06, 00:16:

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It is 3 year older then the p4 it have, I thinking placing a Radeon 9600, but my first problem is the ram bc I can’t limit to 512mb

Why not? This is a system with an i845PE chipset that supports single-channel DDR-SDRAM. That means it's almost certainly got 2 512MB DIMMs, and does not need to run in pairs, so you can remove one with no loss of performance.

and the sound blaster 5.1 that actually an OEM dell version with less features, and it actually working with most games but not with the screamers game

It's a bit nerfed, but should work. What do you mean by "not working"? Does the game run? Do you get any sound? Or is it just positional audio that is failing? Also, does Screamers run if you use the onboard AC'97 audio instead?

I can’t limit ram bc it only got A single gigabyte stick and when I limit on MSconfig, it “ resets” the video driver and I can’t change the resolution or even color and the problem with the game is that every time I click on auto detect the setup just crashes , but runs without setting a audio device
I notice that I can’t play music CD, the pc recognize and everything but I don’t get any audio

Monketech wrote on 2024-08-06, 10:07:

I can’t limit ram bc it only got A single gigabyte stick and when I limit on MSconfig, it “ resets” the video driver and I can’t change the resolution or even color and the problem with the game is that every time I click on auto detect the setup just crashes , but runs without setting a audio device
I notice that I can’t play music CD, the pc recognize and everything but I don’t get any audio

It can also be pre -installed on a previous machine. I installed it with S775/1x512M DDR2 and took it to B450. Then Loew Driver up and already works with 32GB RAM. Other machine too also ok to for pre -installed.

CD audio : SATA or IDE drive ?