Info? Ram?

ux-3 wrote on 2024-08-18, 20:03:

Info? Ram?

Ram is 256 and 64. Tryed using only one of them

They worked perfectly under w95, 3.11 etc...

Graphics card is gforce 4 mx 440 agp 8x. Works with the other os perfectly

Is there a setting for the AGP in the CMOS settings? I would set it to 2x if there is. I would also try a different video card.

Run at least one pass of Memtest86 and report back

But before you do that is the hard disk and optical drive IDE and are they on the same IDE channel as Master/Slave?
If they are put each drive on its own channel as Master then retry installing Win98.
Do this even if you are installing from the CAB files copied to C:

psaez wrote on 2024-08-18, 18:59:

Decreassing processor speed to 300mhz with the multiplier

You say you have a P3 1000. AFAIK, you have no working multiplier on it. In other words, it won't care what you set as multiplier.

What you might be able to do is set FSB to 66.

ux-3 wrote on 2024-08-19, 05:15:

psaez wrote on 2024-08-18, 18:59:

Decreassing processor speed to 300mhz with the multiplier

You say you have a P3 1000. AFAIK, you have no working multiplier on it. In other words, it won't care what you set as multiplier.

What you might be able to do is set FSB to 66.

well, the bios says it is reduced to 300, but, on the other hand, how can MHZ be a problem if it works perfectly with Windows 95?

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-08-18, 21:12:

Run at least one pass of Memtest86 and report back […]
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Run at least one pass of Memtest86 and report back

But before you do that is the hard disk and optical drive IDE and are they on the same IDE channel as Master/Slave?
If they are put each drive on its own channel as Master then retry installing Win98.
Do this even if you are installing from the CAB files copied to C:

I'm using a SATA hard drive using a sata to IDE converter, and it is connected as the master. I only use that hard drive, it has 4 partitions, for the different OS. And as I told you, it worked perfectly for all of them but 98. 98 is in the third primary partition. I can't pass the memtest now because I'm not there, but how can the memory be a problem if I tryed already removing one of the sticks and it works perfectly under 3.11, 95 and 2000?

Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-08-18, 21:11:

Is there a setting for the AGP in the CMOS settings? I would set it to 2x if there is. I would also try a different video card.

Yes it is, I'm not there now, but I'll try when I'm on that city. How can that be a problem if it works perfectly under 3.11, 95 and 2000?

psaez wrote on 2024-08-19, 07:40:

I'm using a SATA hard drive using a sata to IDE converter, and it is connected as the master. I only use that hard drive, it has 4 partitions, for the different OS. And as I told you, it worked perfectly for all of them but 98. 98 is in the third primary partition. I can't pass the memtest now because I'm not there, but how can the memory be a problem if I tryed already removing one of the sticks and it works perfectly under 3.11, 95 and 2000?

Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-08-18, 21:11:

Is there a setting for the AGP in the CMOS settings? I would set it to 2x if there is. I would also try a different video card.

Yes it is, I'm not there now, but I'll try when I'm on that city. How can that be a problem if it works perfectly under 3.11, 95 and 2000?

Could it be something like buggy or early ACPI etc. that Windows 3.1 & -95 will ignore but Windows 98 will try to make use of? What I've learned is that there are a lot of combinations of BIOS settings that are not consistent for Windows across platforms (sometimes you want Plug&Play BIOS, sometimes Auto IRQ, sometimes ACPI - and sometimes not!).

psaez wrote on 2024-08-19, 07:40:

how can MHZ be a problem if it works perfectly with Windows 95?

If the crash is erratic, then it is likely an issue with your hardware. FSB66 will cause less hardware stress and might work.

psaez wrote on 2024-08-19, 07:40:

well, the bios says it is reduced to 300, but, on the other hand, how can MHZ be a problem if it works perfectly with Windows 95 […]
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ux-3 wrote on 2024-08-19, 05:15:

psaez wrote on 2024-08-18, 18:59:

Decreassing processor speed to 300mhz with the multiplier

You say you have a P3 1000. AFAIK, you have no working multiplier on it. In other words, it won't care what you set as multiplier.

What you might be able to do is set FSB to 66.

well, the bios says it is reduced to 300, but, on the other hand, how can MHZ be a problem if it works perfectly with Windows 95?

ElectroSoldier wrote on 2024-08-18, 21:12:

Run at least one pass of Memtest86 and report back […]
Show full quote

Run at least one pass of Memtest86 and report back

But before you do that is the hard disk and optical drive IDE and are they on the same IDE channel as Master/Slave?
If they are put each drive on its own channel as Master then retry installing Win98.
Do this even if you are installing from the CAB files copied to C:

I'm using a SATA hard drive using a sata to IDE converter, and it is connected as the master. I only use that hard drive, it has 4 partitions, for the different OS. And as I told you, it worked perfectly for all of them but 98. 98 is in the third primary partition. I can't pass the memtest now because I'm not there, but how can the memory be a problem if I tryed already removing one of the sticks and it works perfectly under 3.11, 95 and 2000?

Repo Man11 wrote on 2024-08-18, 21:11:

Is there a setting for the AGP in the CMOS settings? I would set it to 2x if there is. I would also try a different video card.

Yes it is, I'm not there now, but I'll try when I'm on that city. How can that be a problem if it works perfectly under 3.11, 95 and 2000?

Because its failing at the point its inspecting your hardware.

The SATA to IDE adapter, which is a crucial detail and not mentioned before, might also be causing problems. Maybe not with Win3.1 because it doesnt look that high, but Win98 will look.
Those adapters are known problem areas for Win98. It is odd that it only affects Win98 but something is stopping it.
I had a problem something like that, I wanted to use a SATA drive via an adapter but the install kept failing. I changed to a 40Gb Maxtor IDE drive and it installed no problem.
That is the main reason I ditched that machine for my Win98 PC, because I wanted a larger HDD.

I don't know about others
On MX3S, the capacitors near the VRM started to heat up a long time ago.
And they started to burst - about 5 years ago

If installing Windows 2000, set the loop test to 3DMark 2003 - 3 and 4 video tests + both CPU tests.
In an hour the question of stability will be clarified

Could this still be the win98 UDMA2 bug?