It would be a three hour or so round trip (gas $$$) so I won't do it, but a guy has a sealed box NOS Iwill KK266 for sale for $50.00. I don't need it, but it's just so cool looking! Oops further temptation - it has an ISA slot.
mmmmm now put it up against a 3200+ and lets see what it can do and if that extra speed makes any difference when matched against a high FSB. Also how much heat are we talking about here ...cant be much hotter than a 3200+ there is only 50Mhz between them.
Makes me want one of these 2800+ chips or one of the OEM 3200+.
At least according to these simple cpu benches, that 50mhz speed difference is noticeable! The 2800+ comes out on top!
However since the Barton 3200+ has double cache, I'm sure there are other times when this CPU loses.
That's a great find, and it's crazy that it works despite the damage to the die! I am not sure how it's even possible given that the lithography seems to expand to the actual border of the die.
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Wes1262wrote on 2024-10-27, 16:55:That's a great find, and it's crazy that it works despite the damage to the die! I am not sure how it's even possible given that […] Show full quote
That's a great find, and it's crazy that it works despite the damage to the die! I am not sure how it's even possible given that the lithography seems to expand to the actual border of the die.
Yea no idea, i thought it would be dead for sure... Maybe because its an ES its missing a few pieces 🤣??
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Wes1262wrote on 2024-10-27, 16:55:That's a great find, and it's crazy that it works despite the damage to the die! I am not sure how it's even possible given that […] Show full quote
That's a great find, and it's crazy that it works despite the damage to the die! I am not sure how it's even possible given that the lithography seems to expand to the actual border of the die.
IIRC, because they are "flip chips" the "top" is inert silicon. All the real bits are on the "bottom"
Unfortunately it’s not in a good condition, a little rusty and some of the parts seem to be missing, like the vertical stickers (badge, lock, HDD & power LED).
Of course I’ve payed to much, but anyhow, I’ve been waiting a long time for this and I’m happy …
BTW: Does anyone know the exact Pantone or RAL codes for the 5150 and 5170?
IDK, but if you can get a swatch of the Pantone Cool Greys, try holding a "Cool Grey 2 UP" against it.
Yeah, I read on the internet that Pantone 453 might be one of the possible candidates but it would be nice not to be deceived by my perception and really know. So far I've not been able to find real official documentation.
Thanks for the hint, though - as a last resort I'd have to rely on color swatches or a professional color reader.
Figured I'd put up photos of the recent Epox/ENMIC mobo I got yesterday, and its CPU.
It's been recapped already - the Sanyo caps originate from a dead GA-6VA mobo, while the three remaining caps are off a long since scrapped Dell SFF PC.
1MB cache from what I can tell (which is probably more than enough.).
Figured I'd put up photos of the recent Epox/ENMIC mobo I got yesterday, and its CPU.
It's been recapped already - the Sanyo caps originate from a dead GA-6VA mobo, while the three remaining caps are off a long since scrapped Dell SFF PC.
1MB cache from what I can tell (which is probably more than enough.).
Interesting, I’m surprised a motherboard made before the capacitor plague needed a recap.
Figured I'd put up photos of the recent Epox/ENMIC mobo I got yesterday, and its CPU.
It's been recapped already - the Sanyo caps originate from a dead GA-6VA mobo, while the three remaining caps are off a long since scrapped Dell SFF PC.
1MB cache from what I can tell (which is probably more than enough.).
Interesting, I’m surprised a motherboard before the capacitor plague needed a recap.
Very nice on the 1MB cache
Caps dry out with boards in long term storage, if it hasn't been powered up in 20 years unless the caps were top notch to start with there is a good chance some of them will need replacing.
Caps dry out with boards in long term storage, if it hasn't been powered up in 20 years unless the caps were top notch to start with there is a good chance some of them will need replacing.
Yes that’s true. Speaking of dry caps. I had a few old Sound Blaster 1.5 and 2.0 cards that had been in storage for 30+ years with terrible noise, but after leaving them powered on for a few hours, most of the noise went away. It’s like the caps just needed to be reenergised. Months later they still sound great.
Caps dry out with boards in long term storage, if it hasn't been powered up in 20 years unless the caps were top notch to start with there is a good chance some of them will need replacing.
Yes that’s true. Speaking of dry caps. I had a few old Sound Blaster 1.5 and 2.0 cards that had been in storage for 30+ years with terrible noise, but after leaving them powered on for a few hours, most of the noise went away. It’s like the caps just needed to be reenergised. Months later they still sound great.
yup, its always a good idea to give boards stored that long a quick going over looking for leaky caps, damage tantalum's or in the case of PSUs Riffa caps.
old RIFFA caps are bad juju and its better to just replace them before powering up, you already have experience with bad tantalum's but they too should be suspect.
yup, its always a good idea to give boards stored that long a quick going over looking for leaky caps, damage tantalum's or in the case of PSUs Riffa caps.
old RIFFA caps are bad juju and its better to just replace them before powering up, you already have experience with bad tantalum's but they too should be suspect.
Don’t talk to me about tantalum’s. Learnt my lesson the hard way 🤣
Figured I'd put up photos of the recent Epox/ENMIC mobo I got yesterday, and its CPU.
It's been recapped already - the Sanyo caps originate from a dead GA-6VA mobo, while the three remaining caps are off a long since scrapped Dell SFF PC.
1MB cache from what I can tell (which is probably more than enough.).
Interesting, I’m surprised a motherboard before the capacitor plague needed a recap.
Very nice on the 1MB cache
Caps dry out with boards in long term storage, if it hasn't been powered up in 20 years unless the caps were top notch to start with there is a good chance some of them will need replacing.
Tayehs, and some were broken off the board. I figured that if I do a recap I might as well replace 'em all.
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Interesting, I’m surprised a motherboard before the capacitor plague needed a recap.
Very nice on the 1MB cache
Caps dry out with boards in long term storage, if it hasn't been powered up in 20 years unless the caps were top notch to start with there is a good chance some of them will need replacing.
Tayehs, and some were broken off the board. I figured that if I do a recap I might as well replace 'em all.
