blktiger wrote on 2025-03-11, 17:37:

I don't see what the fuss is about with this, assuming one is interested in DOS gaming and demo watching. Sound support is going to be a big problem (as reports already demonstrate) and there's no ISA slot to compensate. I'd bet that most DOS demos will either not have sound or have serious sound issues. Also forget about software that's optimized for GUS. Shame really.

While you're entitled to your opinion, please read our community standards. As others have already mentioned it's not in good spirit to come in like this.

I just receive by group buy 2 board and was wondering if anyone has a link for a fan to use for the cpu?

poorcomputerman wrote on 2025-03-14, 00:31:

I just receive by group buy 2 board and was wondering if anyone has a link for a fan to use for the cpu?

I used a Noctua 40x10mm fan. NF-A4x10 FLX. Nice and quiet.

I second that, NF-A4x10 FLX is awesome for that job.

Speaking of Demos, Second Reality’s audio now works under the latest version of FreeDOS on the ITX Llama. Under MSDos it’s a total mess with mostly pops, clicks and whistles.

Thgill wrote on 2025-03-14, 07:27:

Speaking of Demos, Second Reality’s audio now works under the latest version of FreeDOS on the ITX Llama. Under MSDos it’s a total mess with mostly pops, clicks and whistles.

Nice! Does Crystal Dreams II audio also work better with FreeDos?

Aaron707 wrote on 2025-03-14, 01:06:

poorcomputerman wrote on 2025-03-14, 00:31:

I just receive by group buy 2 board and was wondering if anyone has a link for a fan to use for the cpu?

I used a Noctua 40x10mm fan. NF-A4x10 FLX. Nice and quiet.

Was it the 5V or 12 V version of the fan?

poorcomputerman wrote on 2025-03-14, 21:54:

Aaron707 wrote on 2025-03-14, 01:06:

poorcomputerman wrote on 2025-03-14, 00:31:

I just receive by group buy 2 board and was wondering if anyone has a link for a fan to use for the cpu?

I used a Noctua 40x10mm fan. NF-A4x10 FLX. Nice and quiet.

Was it the 5V or 12 V version of the fan?

12V version. But the ITX board can run either as there is a jumper for voltage setting.

janih wrote on 2025-03-14, 08:57:

Thgill wrote on 2025-03-14, 07:27:

Speaking of Demos, Second Reality’s audio now works under the latest version of FreeDOS on the ITX Llama. Under MSDos it’s a total mess with mostly pops, clicks and whistles.

Nice! Does Crystal Dreams II audio also work better with FreeDos?

Sadly no. Still lots of clicks and pops in the audio on it.

Thgill wrote on 2025-03-14, 07:27:

Speaking of Demos, Second Reality’s audio now works under the latest version of FreeDOS on the ITX Llama. Under MSDos it’s a total mess with mostly pops, clicks and whistles.

Quite interesting and unexpected. Any idea why this in particular works better in the latest version of FreeDOS? Any specific changes or improvements to FreeDOS that resulted in this working better?

From what I've read so far, usually it's MS-DOS that works best, being the original OS that was actually used back in the day.

Probably FreeDOS has a specific fix for the Crystal Audio SB emulation driver or something.

Received my unit a couple of weeks ago, thank you to DesertPanther, Eivind and contributors for all your work and efforts!

Been a bit...uh...unsettled here on the home front and have not had a chance to really play around with it. But see that Phil got his and has a new video posted - https://youtu.be/L9UdU89DDvY

Thgill wrote on 2025-03-15, 17:50:

Sadly no. Still lots of clicks and pops in the audio on it.

Have you tested Win98 (7.1) DOS with that game? Ideally I'd like to use the same FAT32 enabled MSDOS for everything, unless FreeDOS is simply better.

Phil Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9UdU89DDvY

It just needs intergrated Voodoo and GUS.

douglar wrote on 2025-04-11, 17:41:

Phil Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9UdU89DDvY

Nice, I hope they can take advantage of the publicity.

It’s a pretty clever project. I love what they did with the bios boot floppies, sound cards, storage, etc.

The PCI-e to PCI to AGP setup is a curious choice. Why didn’t they just stick with PCI? Doesn’t seem like it is getting full AGP performance but they are getting the NVidia AGP on PCI compatibility issues. Doesn’t seem like they have enough CPU to run games that require AGP bandwidth even if they had AGP bandwidth.

Was there a downside of doing a PCI interface instead? Maybe with a bios setting that lets you chance the PCI clock speed for extra performance?

I think it's just harder to find PCI graphics cards

sardaukar wrote on 2025-04-12, 13:56:

I think it's just harder to find PCI graphics cards

Maybe. That’s certainly true if you are looking for 3dfx, but anything 3dfx is kind of hard to find.

PCI? Amazon sells new chinese PCI Rage cards for less than $20 and S3 PcI cards are still easy to find.

Sounds like the Llama board scales between a 386-40 and a Pentium 233. What video card < $100 would you want to pair with that CPU that would do DOS and Win98?

I'm going with a Radeon 9200 myself