Reply 6780 of 6978, by Namrok
Joseph_Joestar wrote on 2025-04-15, 04:27:Namrok wrote on 2025-04-15, 02:40:I also hated the lore. I disliked the lore from the base game, but the DLC I actually hated. It's actually so bad it makes me like Doom 2016 less.
While I haven't played Doom Eternal yet, I have been spoiled on (some of) the lore via YouTube videos by certain reviewers, which made me look up the rest as well.
Without going into details, I liked how it officially confirmed that the Doom Slayer is in fact the same Doomguy from Doom 1&2 and Doom 64. This was already hinted in Doom 2016, but it was made very clear in Eternal and its DLCs. From what I gather, it even canonizes parts of the old Doom comic from the 90s (huge guts, rip and tear etc).
Yeah, all that I was ok with, although I liked how it was more hinted at in Doom 2016, rather than explicitly spelled out in painful detail for the slow kids in the back like it was in Eternal. No, what got under my skin was the DLC lore.
The preposterously stupid retcons/twists from Ancient Gods just wore me down. Samuel Hayden is actually a renegade Maykr, The Father is actually VEGA who is also actually not The Father at all. The Dark Lord is the true Father who was the first being that created everything, and VEGA/"The Father" stole his name, imprisoned him, and rewrote history. Also, the Doom Slayer is part demon? So when you defeat the Dark Lord/The True Father at the end of the game and all the demons outside of hell die, the Doomslayer falls comatose as well and gets imprisoned right back in his casket from the beginning of Doom 2016.
It was all just way, way too stupid for me, made even stupider by how laboriously they spell it all out for you without a hint of subtlety or ambiguity.
Also I hated the final boss fight.
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