Trashbytes wrote on 2025-04-30, 23:48:
Apologies, memory requires a kick in the pants these days!
Hey, no worries.
It took a few moments for me to recall the timelines too, even though I deal with nothing but "yesteryear" retro on most of my PCs.
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-05-01, 02:36:
The HD 4000 series were very well received at the time because they were a fantastic value. The 4850 and 4870 at $199 and $299 were priced to compete with the 8800GT\9800GT - 9800GTX, but were often much closer to the performance range of the GTX 260 and GTX 280 priced at $399 and $650.
I miss those times when you could actually buy a pretty decent near top-of-the-line GPU for just a few hundred $. These days, it's... a LOT more. Thank you fucking bitcoin/cryptocurrency bullshit!
Trashbytes wrote on 2025-05-01, 02:47:
I just keep them on my display shelf as a reminder of how damn cool that period of PC gaming was.
You mean how *hot* that period of PC gaming was. 🤣
I'm personally not a fan of these hot GPUs, though. Past nVidia 6000 series and ATI X100 series, things got stupid pretty quickly with the power requirements, particularly on the high end cards. But at least the low and mid-range was still OK. The GTX 1000 series were finally a step in the right direction - reducing the TDP and actually giving a significant boost in performance over anything that was out before. No wonder the GTX 1080 is still relevant today. Felt like the ATI R300 era all over again. But then the GTX 2000 series reversed that quickly. The 3000 series and beyond, I won't even talk about. TDP levels have reached a new level of stupid at this point. I guess we can thank the ray-tracing craze for that (or at least partially.)
BitWrangler wrote on 2025-05-01, 04:19:
I had an HD4670 in 2009 and it seemed like more GPU than I knew what to do with, as I was still picking up cheaper/older games, not paying release prices. Also was at modest monitor res. So seemed like overkill just that. For XP/Vista/Early7 builds sticking with "office" resolution monitors, they still seem to cover a wide range adequately, as long as it's okay on DX10. Heck they still come into consideration for near modern, since they do as well as a 440GTX or something.
I remember a few years back (well, more like 5 now) when Unreal 4 engine / Fortnite didn't have the DX11 minimum requirement and you could still run it with an old DX10 card like the HD4670. AFAIK, season X (from chapter 1) was the last one to allow this and online videos showed decent framerates pumped out even with these 10+ year-old cards at the time. I actually tried it with my HD3870 (essentially a very near class of card as the HD4670) and even with that the game ran OK. Only issue was that the HD3870 had 512 MB of VRAM, making the game micro-stutter due to constant texture loading/unloading to VRAM. Apart from that, I could see the card getting decent FPS (around 60). CS-GO (the days before it turned into CS2) ran even better.
CharlieFoxtrot wrote on 2025-05-01, 18:47:
These days if you manage to get anything 3dfx for free, it is an amazing win!
Indeed it is.
I've personally given up, though. Seems like these are nowhere to be found where I currently live, or for even more outrageous prices (because people look up stuff on Ebay and then match or ask an even higher price) without necessarily knowing if the card is working or not. - No thanks, I'll stick to GeForce 4 MX-440 and newer AGP cards for my retro builds, as these seem to be much more abundant (and extremely affordable) here.
CrFr wrote on 2025-05-04, 09:52:
Bought this IBM Model 8513 monitor. After good cleaning, it looks almost like brand new. Only visible flaw is slightly yellowed power switch. I expected the caps in old junk like this to be dead. I de-soldered few of them to test, and all of them tested fine, so I let them be.
Now I have all the components of my first computer setup in ~1990. This monitor, IBM PS/2 Model 30 8086, Model M keyboard and that IBM's first PS/2 mouse. I already thought I would never find the monitor in decent condition.
Awesome!
Yeah, old gear like that was build with pretty serious quality parts back in the day. That's not to say there weren't stuff to beware of (e.g. RIFA caps in old Apple PSUs, Nichicon PR and UCC LXF caps in anything from the mid-90's, and etc.) But for the most part... yeah, things were just made to last.
The picture on that monitor looks brilliant - very nice capture!
Makes me miss the cool pixel art of the 90's.