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First post, by iiamsiincere

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Hello

I'm going crazy trying to figure this out, so any help would be appreciated. I'm using Win 7 Pro and I'm trying to install the video drivers to my Radeon HD 4870. "Technically" the drivers install but every time I try to install it, it quickly get's to the driver's installed screen but is yellow indicating there were errors. When you click on the logs, it says everything was successful. Then I noticed that the Catalyst Center doesn't seem to be installed. I've installed different versions of Catalyst Center from version 11-14. I even found an ISO of a Radeon HD 4850 CD that had the separate CCC installation folder (that I couldn't find anywhere online individually) and that didn't seem to change anything even though it said it installed correctly.

Does anyone know if this is common and how to fix this? Is the only fix to install Catalyst on WinXP in order to get the Catalyst Control Center?
I was hoping to use Win7 in order to use the Windows Media Center features that don't appear in WinXP.
I could also try Win Vista as some youtubers say it's currently a lot more usable then it was back in the Win7 days.

Reply 1 of 10, by iiamsiincere

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Update: Out of curiosity, I reinstalled the CCC setup that I have access to. I now can see Catalyst Center Control but whenever I click on any options (the application, advanced application, wizard, help) nothing shows up. I do see it in the task manager but nothing appears.

Reply 2 of 10, by AncapDude

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I have 2 ideas that may help:
1. Run the amd cleanup utility, reboot and install
2. Assign Standard VGA drivers to the GPU in device manager first, then reboot and install

Reply 3 of 10, by iiamsiincere

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AncapDude wrote on 2025-08-27, 18:46:

I have 2 ideas that may help:
1. Run the amd cleanup utility, reboot and install
2. Assign Standard VGA drivers to the GPU in device manager first, then reboot and install

I'll try that now and get back to you.

Reply 4 of 10, by iiamsiincere

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AncapDude wrote on 2025-08-27, 18:46:

I have 2 ideas that may help:
1. Run the amd cleanup utility, reboot and install
2. Assign Standard VGA drivers to the GPU in device manager first, then reboot and install

Yea, tried that and a few more things but still nothing.

Reply 5 of 10, by iiamsiincere

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AncapDude wrote on 2025-08-27, 18:46:

I have 2 ideas that may help:
1. Run the amd cleanup utility, reboot and install
2. Assign Standard VGA drivers to the GPU in device manager first, then reboot and install

So, basically, here's where I'm at. I don't know if it solves my ultimate issue but I was able to resolve the issue of Catalyst Control Center. I reinstalled Win7, to make sure I didn't add anything that caused the issue in the first place. I then downloaded and install CCC 8.7 (as it specifically supports my GPU). After doing that, I installed Catalyst Control Suite 11.11 and made sure to manually get the correct drivers within device manager (my ISO of Windows may be the reason why I have to do that). After rebooting, I was able to get access of Catalyst Control Center and all of it's settings. Now I need to try and resolve the issue that made me want to get CCC in the first place but thank you for your help. I wouldn't have found those earlier versions if I didn't think of what you advised.

Reply 6 of 10, by agent_x007

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1) CCC may require newer/older version of .NET to function properly.
2) Some driver packages have damaged/incomplete CCC install folder (no setup.exe in CCC folder) - those simply can't install CCC properly.
3) CCC from earlier driver, can work with newer version with broken CCC install.
4) CCC will not install if .inf driver files don't have your GPUs Hardware ID (example : "forced" installation via Device Manager)

Reply 7 of 10, by iiamsiincere

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agent_x007 wrote on 2025-08-27, 22:48:
1) CCC may require newer/older version of .NET to function properly. 2) Some driver packages have damaged/incomplete CCC install […]
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1) CCC may require newer/older version of .NET to function properly.
2) Some driver packages have damaged/incomplete CCC install folder (no setup.exe in CCC folder) - those simply can't install CCC properly.
3) CCC from earlier driver, can work with newer version with broken CCC install.
4) CCC will not install if .inf driver files don't have your GPUs Hardware ID (example : "forced" installation via Device Manager)

Thank you, this is valuable information. I think I figured this out without knowing exactly what was happening. So, where I'm at now is that Catalyst Control Center is fully functioning and displays the Component output settings but now I get a greenish tint on my Consumer CRT that I'm trying to figure out. When I use a GeForce 6600 or GTX 275, it outputs with full color to my CRT with no issues but the Radeon 4870 has the greenish tint. Would I just need to go through each inf file I have with notepad++ to find the information I need (the correct GPU Hardware ID) or is that the 4870 specifically outputs a specific type of Component output (for example, some manuals dictate the video going into an HD CRT or HDTV rather then a standard NTSC CRT TV)?

Reply 8 of 10, by swaaye

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iiamsiincere wrote on 2025-08-28, 15:18:

Thank you, this is valuable information. I think I figured this out without knowing exactly what was happening. So, where I'm at now is that Catalyst Control Center is fully functioning and displays the Component output settings but now I get a greenish tint on my Consumer CRT that I'm trying to figure out. When I use a GeForce 6600 or GTX 275, it outputs with full color to my CRT with no issues but the Radeon 4870 has the greenish tint. Would I just need to go through each inf file I have with notepad++ to find the information I need (the correct GPU Hardware ID) or is that the 4870 specifically outputs a specific type of Component output (for example, some manuals dictate the video going into an HD CRT or HDTV rather then a standard NTSC CRT TV)?

What sort of adapter are you using to gain component outputs from the 4870? I think I've had problems with some of them. There are official ATI DVI -> component adapters and they often have little dip switches for resolution.

Reply 9 of 10, by iiamsiincere

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swaaye wrote on 2025-08-29, 16:38:
iiamsiincere wrote on 2025-08-28, 15:18:

Thank you, this is valuable information. I think I figured this out without knowing exactly what was happening. So, where I'm at now is that Catalyst Control Center is fully functioning and displays the Component output settings but now I get a greenish tint on my Consumer CRT that I'm trying to figure out. When I use a GeForce 6600 or GTX 275, it outputs with full color to my CRT with no issues but the Radeon 4870 has the greenish tint. Would I just need to go through each inf file I have with notepad++ to find the information I need (the correct GPU Hardware ID) or is that the 4870 specifically outputs a specific type of Component output (for example, some manuals dictate the video going into an HD CRT or HDTV rather then a standard NTSC CRT TV)?

What sort of adapter are you using to gain component outputs from the 4870? I think I've had problems with some of them. There are official ATI DVI -> component adapters and they often have little dip switches for resolution.

I'm using the normal Component adapter that comes with the card. I am starting to believe that certain cards need very specific configurations for component to output either 240p or 480i the lowest with the correct sync. Once I connected a standard S-Video cable, it was able to output perfectly...with one big downside, the hz gets pushed down to about 30 or 31 (don't fully remember what the exact number is). I tried installing GroovyMame on the machine and it refuses to output anything higher than 30/31hz. If I try to push 15, 59 or 60hz interlaced (those are the options that appear for the driver needed) nothing outputs. If I flash the bios using Atom-15, neither 15, 31 or 24 will work. So now I'm trying to figure out if there are any GPUs that output S-Video at 60hz 480i.

Reply 10 of 10, by swaaye

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iiamsiincere wrote on 2025-08-29, 20:28:

I'm using the normal Component adapter that comes with the card. I am starting to believe that certain cards need very specific configurations for component to output either 240p or 480i the lowest with the correct sync. Once I connected a standard S-Video cable, it was able to output perfectly...with one big downside, the hz gets pushed down to about 30 or 31 (don't fully remember what the exact number is). I tried installing GroovyMame on the machine and it refuses to output anything higher than 30/31hz. If I try to push 15, 59 or 60hz interlaced (those are the options that appear for the driver needed) nothing outputs. If I flash the bios using Atom-15, neither 15, 31 or 24 will work. So now I'm trying to figure out if there are any GPUs that output S-Video at 60hz 480i.

Strange stuff. I'm positive I used to run 59Hz 480i Svideo back in the SD CRT TV days. ATI cards also had much better Svideo picture quality than Nvidia. I don't think I've ever tried it with a card as new as 4870. It would have been the original Radeon up through X800.

I have the component video adapter but have only briefly used it. When I entered the HDTV era it was with a plasma TV that has VGA and HDMI.