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Reply 60 of 69, by shevalier

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The difference in power consumption is three time.
And there is a ten-year gap between them.
High Midrange C775 2010 versus Extra Lowend 2020

PS. On the previous page, testing the processor and RAM.
Only 5 attachments are allowed, but there are six screenshots 😀
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The processors are identical, but the RAM has higher bandwidth in Celeron.

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Reply 61 of 69, by theelf

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Mondodimotori wrote on 2025-11-20, 17:42:
Pretty sure you don't need to be a target specifically (like it could be for Linux or MacOS). Those OSs had plenty of vulnerabil […]
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theelf wrote on 2025-11-20, 14:44:

technically is opposite, we (2k-XP) users are not a target for anything anymore, win10-11,android 5.x+ or macos 10.x are the targets

The only problem in XP is lack of some modern versions of some software, for example, Im a freelance worker, and every 3 months i need to do taxes online, and always have some problem, because government update something and need or new java or the software need some NT6+ functions etc.

In general biggest problem is java for me, always need to do some dll patching or something weird to do my taxes jaja but until 2025 still do everything in XP, bank and taxes online. Maybe 2026 not if they move to a much higher java version

Pretty sure you don't need to be a target specifically (like it could be for Linux or MacOS).
Those OSs had plenty of vulnerabilities, and I doubt that everyone stopped using those to gain malicious access and gather sensitive information.

Unless you have a strong hardware firewall on your modem, you are at high risk.
This not counting hardware vulnerabilities that won't ever be fixed on such old hardware.

Now, I know someone may not like certain OSs, but... You can do those sensitive thing on the latest Linux distro available. You probably won't even need to get new hardware, since it's extremely lightweight, just a second partition for sensitive tasks that could be interesting for a data breach.
At least you would be covered from software vulnerabilities with that.

Hello, for many years I worked in computer security on servers. I still do it, but not so often now. Currently I work setting up medical events, where we also need security on the data servers because many companies have protected content. And even after many years working in this, I still cannot really understand when people say that a system is full of vulnerabilities. For me, at user level, it is difficult to understand.

Just one example: in a small company from my town, where I had not worked for at least 10 years, they called me last year very desperate, because they had a virus that encrypted everything and was asking for a ransom. As they did not know how to solve it, they remembered that I was the technician there and asked me if I could help. I went, and yes, all the Windows 10 PCs and the server with Windows Server 2016 or 2019, I do not remember exactly, were also completely encrypted.
I remembered that I had left an old PC with Windows XP that made a local copy of the server every Sunday, and surprisingly, after 10 years, it was still there doing its job, and we managed to save the company with very small data loss, because that XP was the only computer not infected.

So I am sorry, but I still cannot understand very well the average user talking about vulnerabilities, and with everange user im not talking about you, im talking in a generic way

shevalier wrote on Yesterday, 08:06:

The difference in power consumption is three time.
And there is a ten-year gap between them.
High Midrange C775 2010 versus Extra Lowend 2020

Socket 775 is sexy maybe

I like 775 because still can use pentium 4, is like a gap from old and new era, and like to maximize as much i can

Reply 62 of 69, by shevalier

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theelf wrote on Yesterday, 09:51:

So I am sorry, but I still cannot understand very well the average user talking about vulnerabilities, and with everange user im not talking about you, im talking in a generic way

IP6 never came into our lives, and IP4 addresses ran out long ago.
As a result, most users are behind double NAT — their own router and their Internet service provider.
Therefore, direct attacks on open ports of outdated operating systems are unlikely. (Of course, if your provider uses port isolation with VLAN)

Currently, viruses spread mainly through scripts on hacked websites - the script breaks through the browser's sandbox virtual machine and downloads some kind of payload.
To counter them, you need a good modern browser that requires a fresh operating system.
Not some unknown Chromium adaptation compiled by unknown anonymous people.
However, if the user decides to install, run or visit something, no antivirus can prevent them from doing so.

PS. I wasn't particularly enthusiastic about Windows 10, and Windows 11 is beyond good and evil.
Nevertheless, new software for accessing the Internet is vital.
It seems it's time to switch to Debian with LXQt. 😀

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Reply 63 of 69, by theelf

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shevalier wrote on Yesterday, 10:11:
IP6 never came into our lives, and IP4 addresses ran out long ago. As a result, most users are behind double NAT — their own rou […]
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theelf wrote on Yesterday, 09:51:

So I am sorry, but I still cannot understand very well the average user talking about vulnerabilities, and with everange user im not talking about you, im talking in a generic way

IP6 never came into our lives, and IP4 addresses ran out long ago.
As a result, most users are behind double NAT — their own router and their Internet service provider.
Therefore, direct attacks on open ports of outdated operating systems are unlikely. (Of course, if your provider uses port isolation with VLAN)

Currently, viruses spread mainly through scripts on hacked websites - the script breaks through the browser's sandbox virtual machine and downloads some kind of payload.
To counter them, you need a good modern browser that requires a fresh operating system.
Not some unknown Chromium adaptation compiled by unknown anonymous people.
However, if the user decides to install, run or visit something, no antivirus can prevent them from doing so.

PS. I wasn't particularly enthusiastic about Windows 10, and Windows 11 is beyond good and evil.
Nevertheless, new software for accessing the Internet is vital.
It seems it's time to switch to Debian with LXQt. 😀

if i need to trust, i trust more on win32ss supermium chromium than google chrome one to be true

Reply 64 of 69, by Falcosoft

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theelf wrote on Yesterday, 11:02:

if i need to trust, i trust more on win32ss supermium chromium than google chrome one to be true

The same for me. Supermium is much more transparent than anything from Google...

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Reply 65 of 69, by shevalier

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Falcosoft wrote on Yesterday, 11:17:
theelf wrote on Yesterday, 11:02:

if i need to trust, i trust more on win32ss supermium chromium than google chrome one to be true

The same for me. Supermium is much more transparent than anything from Google...

I'm not a big fan of anything Google releases (especially Android, but there's no choice here), so I only use Firefox (especially on Android))))))))))))
PS The war between Google YouTube and Adblock continues.
Okay, today I'll sit without videos.

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Reply 66 of 69, by theelf

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shevalier wrote on Yesterday, 13:50:
I'm not a big fan of anything Google releases (especially Android, but there's no choice here), so I only use Firefox (especiall […]
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Falcosoft wrote on Yesterday, 11:17:
theelf wrote on Yesterday, 11:02:

if i need to trust, i trust more on win32ss supermium chromium than google chrome one to be true

The same for me. Supermium is much more transparent than anything from Google...

I'm not a big fan of anything Google releases (especially Android, but there's no choice here), so I only use Firefox (especially on Android))))))))))))
PS The war between Google YouTube and Adblock continues.
Okay, today I'll sit without videos.

ahhh really wish i can use firefox, i dont like chromium, but in XP no choise, chromium or nothing at least for now

Funny thing, i have a thinkpad x390 laptop, installed macos ventura on it, and in osx firefox drain the battery compared to chromium or safari, have high cpu use, and i cant use because of this. Sad!! no firefox for me in desktop or laptop

Reply 67 of 69, by shevalier

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theelf wrote on Yesterday, 14:26:
shevalier wrote on Yesterday, 13:50:
I'm not a big fan of anything Google releases (especially Android, but there's no choice here), so I only use Firefox (especiall […]
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Falcosoft wrote on Yesterday, 11:17:

The same for me. Supermium is much more transparent than anything from Google...

I'm not a big fan of anything Google releases (especially Android, but there's no choice here), so I only use Firefox (especially on Android))))))))))))
PS The war between Google YouTube and Adblock continues.
Okay, today I'll sit without videos.

ahhh really wish i can use firefox, i dont like chromium, but in XP no choise, chromium or nothing at least for now

Funny thing, i have a thinkpad x390 laptop, installed macos ventura on it, and in osx firefox drain the battery compared to chromium or safari, have high cpu use, and i cant use because of this. Sad!! no firefox for me in desktop or laptop

/ full offtopic
I don't think I have any special or specific needs.
I would agree with the highly questionable but understandable logic of the advertisement
- Watch the launch of SpaceShip - Musk had intercourse with Amber Heard - purchase a ticket to see Pirates of the Caribbean (Johnny Depp is very good in the role of Captain Jack Sparrow)

But advertising level
-Launch Starship - Flat Earth - Nigerian travel agency raises money for trip to Mars (Enter your card number and CVV)
or
-Repairing Voodoo 3 - buy ASUS ROG Astral GeForce RTX™ 5090

So, sorry, I understand perfectly well that the Internet is financed by advertising.
But a browser that doesn't work with Adblock is not for me.

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Reply 68 of 69, by theelf

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shevalier wrote on Yesterday, 16:16:
/ full offtopic I don't think I have any special or specific needs. I would agree with the highly questionable but understandabl […]
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theelf wrote on Yesterday, 14:26:
shevalier wrote on Yesterday, 13:50:

I'm not a big fan of anything Google releases (especially Android, but there's no choice here), so I only use Firefox (especially on Android))))))))))))
PS The war between Google YouTube and Adblock continues.
Okay, today I'll sit without videos.

ahhh really wish i can use firefox, i dont like chromium, but in XP no choise, chromium or nothing at least for now

Funny thing, i have a thinkpad x390 laptop, installed macos ventura on it, and in osx firefox drain the battery compared to chromium or safari, have high cpu use, and i cant use because of this. Sad!! no firefox for me in desktop or laptop

/ full offtopic
I don't think I have any special or specific needs.
I would agree with the highly questionable but understandable logic of the advertisement
- Watch the launch of SpaceShip - Musk had intercourse with Amber Heard - purchase a ticket to see Pirates of the Caribbean (Johnny Depp is very good in the role of Captain Jack Sparrow)

But advertising level
-Launch Starship - Flat Earth - Nigerian travel agency raises money for trip to Mars (Enter your card number and CVV)
or
-Repairing Voodoo 3 - buy ASUS ROG Astral GeForce RTX™ 5090

So, sorry, I understand perfectly well that the Internet is financed by advertising.
But a browser that doesn't work with Adblock is not for me.

In chromium I use ublock origin, fantastic

Reply 69 of 69, by shevalier

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theelf wrote on Yesterday, 17:35:
shevalier wrote on Yesterday, 16:16:
/ full offtopic I don't think I have any special or specific needs. I would agree with the highly questionable but understandabl […]
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theelf wrote on Yesterday, 14:26:

ahhh really wish i can use firefox, i dont like chromium, but in XP no choise, chromium or nothing at least for now

Funny thing, i have a thinkpad x390 laptop, installed macos ventura on it, and in osx firefox drain the battery compared to chromium or safari, have high cpu use, and i cant use because of this. Sad!! no firefox for me in desktop or laptop

/ full offtopic
I don't think I have any special or specific needs.
I would agree with the highly questionable but understandable logic of the advertisement
- Watch the launch of SpaceShip - Musk had intercourse with Amber Heard - purchase a ticket to see Pirates of the Caribbean (Johnny Depp is very good in the role of Captain Jack Sparrow)

But advertising level
-Launch Starship - Flat Earth - Nigerian travel agency raises money for trip to Mars (Enter your card number and CVV)
or
-Repairing Voodoo 3 - buy ASUS ROG Astral GeForce RTX™ 5090

So, sorry, I understand perfectly well that the Internet is financed by advertising.
But a browser that doesn't work with Adblock is not for me.

In chromium I use ublock origin, fantastic

+ Ghostery +Privacy Badger

Aopen MX3S, PIII-S Tualatin 1133, Radeon 9800Pro@XT BIOS, Audigy 4 SB0610
JetWay K8T8AS, Athlon DH-E6 3000+, Radeon HD2600Pro AGP, Audigy 2 Value SB0400
Gigabyte Ga-k8n51gmf, Turion64 ML-30@2.2GHz , Radeon X800GTO PL16, Diamond monster sound MX300