First step is to run the software with everything at default clock speeds to rule it out. It may not be an issue but you need to remove it as a question mark.

Edit: Actually the P3 is running at the default clocks at 933 right? So it's not actually overclocked?

NeoG_ wrote on 2026-02-16, 00:42:

First step is to run the software with everything at default clock speeds to rule it out. It may not be an issue but you need to remove it as a question mark.

Edit: Actually the P3 is running at the default clocks at 933 right? So it's not actually overclocked?

The default is 466(E), I believe. But it's capable of 933. The highest is 1GHz, but setting it to that still keeps it at 933.

EDIT: Okay, I set it back to default (466), ran the game, tested it, quit, tried to change the resolution - Rundll32 error and lockup again.

NeoG_ wrote on 2026-02-16, 00:42:

First step is to run the software with everything at default clock speeds to rule it out. It may not be an issue but you need to remove it as a question mark.

Edit: Actually the P3 is running at the default clocks at 933 right? So it's not actually overclocked?

Sorry, not sure if you saw my edited post. But after setting the CPU back to 466, I still had the same issue happen. Not during the game, but after exiting and trying to change the resolution.

Did you try the same on Win2k/XP? Consider a dual boot; it helps me isolate driver/software issues from hardware related ones.

Anilocin wrote on 2026-02-16, 21:49:

Did you try the same on Win2k/XP? Consider a dual boot; it helps me isolate driver/software issues from hardware related ones.

That's not really an option for me, I'm afraid. Besides, I have and use 86Box for isolating issues and testing, but I don't think I'd be able to replicate this issue and these errors. I'm not able to add the same CPU or GPU.

Tried a few more things, but still no luck so far. I tried checking/scanning for corrupt/missing system files, tried restoring Rundll32 from the 98 disc, used ScanDisk, which found and fixed errors, tried disabling/enabling certain graphical options for the game, reinstalled the graphics drivers, but still it always crashes when changing the desktop resolution. And the colour depth, for that matter. It doesn't seem to throw up the error before playing, but always after.

Only other thing I can think of trying is a different graphics driver.

I found on another thread a recommendation to use 30.82 with a Ti4200

NeoG_ wrote on 2026-02-17, 00:39:

I found on another thread a recommendation to use 30.82 with a Ti4200

Great, thanks. I'll give that a try. 😀 I currently have three that are recommended for this card, but I think one or two were problematic. I have 31.40, 45.23 (currently installed), and 81.98.

I'm also installing the game in 86Box. It doesn't have the same CPU and GPU, but I'll see if the same issue triggers.

Hmm. Well, everything's fine with 86Box. No weird crashes or errors before or after playing. Also, it doesn't appear that I can use 30.82. It supports the Geforce 4 Ti 4200, but I don't think it supports the Geforce 4 Ti 4200 8x. It was the one downloaded from Phil's Computer Lab.

Hooray! It does appear to be a GPU driver issue. Installed the first available for the x8 version I believe, which is 31.40. The problem appears to have gone. 😀

Nice to hear that!

Based on your specs, I'm assuming you are running 89mhz AGP?
How has that been holding up with the GF4 Ti4200? Because I also have GF4 Ti4200 8x, a Medion version.

Anilocin wrote on 2026-02-17, 02:34:

Nice to hear that!

Based on your specs, I'm assuming you are running 89mhz AGP?
How has that been holding up with the GF4 Ti4200? Because I also have GF4 Ti4200 8x, a Medion version.

Yeah, that’s what I have, too. A Medion. 😄 I presume it’s also running at 89Mhz. So far it’s been fine. I don’t think these models have the default clock speeds though…? So I usually have to overclock them a bit. I think the defaults are both 250Mhz.

DustyShinigami wrote on 2026-02-17, 01:51:

Hooray!

https://media.tenor.com/htj8tTsTkHoAAAAM/yes-sweet.gif

NeoG_ wrote on 2026-02-17, 10:54:

DustyShinigami wrote on 2026-02-17, 01:51:

Hooray!

https://media.tenor.com/htj8tTsTkHoAAAAM/yes-sweet.gif

Lol. He looks a bit like my GP. :p

Thought I'd post this here as part of the topic is to do with the 30.82 drivers.

I've discovered, for all the stability I was having with the 31.40 drivers, that they're the cause of my ScanDisk breaking. I basically added the Windows ME version due to the larger HDD. Once 30.82 is installed, trying to run ScanDisk gives me an Illegal Operation error and won't run it. Also, if I try to restart the PC, I get some Shell.dll warning/error.

So I want to try 30.82, though unsurprisingly, it says my card isn't supported. I've had this problem multiple times. Though I have the Geforce 4 Ti 4200, it is actually the NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X model. So I'm struggling to find a site that has all the legacy drivers. And if there's even a 30.82 for this model, which I suspect there isn't.

It seems to be fine with 45.23, though obviously I've had issues in some games, such as The Longest Journey.

EDIT: Ah, I've remembered - it was Phil's Computer Lab where I got some of them before, which has a nice list of what cards are supported.

DustyShinigami wrote on 2026-02-17, 01:51:

Hooray! It does appear to be a GPU driver issue. Installed the first available for the x8 version I believe, which is 31.40. The problem appears to have gone. 😀

same here, for geforce4ti 8x cards don't go any higher than 31.40 drivers for win98, there not very stable and tends to be slower for games on windows 98, my first build was based on youtuber philcomputerlab guide-line, and it was annoying. half of the games ran slow especially when there’s too much action, and my pc is very fast for windows98 build. phil should’ve mention that 45.23 are not really recommended for win98, more for windows 2000/xp.

vintageonthemoon wrote on 2026-04-20, 19:17:

DustyShinigami wrote on 2026-02-17, 01:51:

Hooray! It does appear to be a GPU driver issue. Installed the first available for the x8 version I believe, which is 31.40. The problem appears to have gone. 😀

same here, for geforce4ti 8x cards don't go any higher than 31.40 drivers for win98, there not very stable and tends to be slower for games on windows 98, my first build was based on youtuber philcomputerlab guide-line, and it was annoying. half of the games ran slow especially when there’s too much action, and my pc is very fast for windows98 build. phil should’ve mention that 45.23 are not really recommended for win98, more for windows 2000/xp.

For the most part, I've been problem free with 31.40, until I discovered this ScanDisk issue. Sadly, 45.23 is the next best thing where it doesn't happen. Games have been mostly fine, but I've yet to try the likes of System Shock 2, Half-Life and Thief 1 and 2. I think Quake 2 was fine with it though.

im wondering this scandisk error if it's because the card is 8x and not 4x? I’m curious what motherboard you're using? and what chipsets? VIA apollo pro 133/133A chipsets are notoriously picky when it comes to AGP cards over 4x

vintageonthemoon wrote on 2026-04-20, 21:26:

im wondering this scandisk error if it's because the card is 8x and not 4x? I’m curious what motherboard you're using? and what chipsets? VIA apollo pro 133/133A chipsets are notoriously picky when it comes to AGP cards over 4x

I'm not sure. Would that affect it? I just figured there's some sort of conflict due to the 31.40 drivers being older...? And the ScanDisk I've added, to work with bigger hard drives over 128GB, is more modern as it's from Windows ME...? I still don't understand how or why that would affect it though. I don't recall it ever being a problem before, though this is before I had a bigger HDD over 128GB.

I'm using this motherboard: https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/abit-ab-be6-ii