If it were me, I'd stay grounded while taking it out of the box, then place it on an anti static mat and keep it in contact with that while removing the bubble wrap.

I once received a graphics card packed this way and it did not work when tested. The seller did not dispute it, so I'll never know for sure if it worked prior to being shipped that way. In my case, I had no idea that it was not in a static bag so I opened the box and saw the bubble wrap and naively assumed that the card was also in an anti static bag underneath all of the wrap. I could feel the hair on my arm stand up as I removed it from the box, and only then did I see the card was just encased in bubble wrap.

No need to worry, I bought dozens of videocards, motherboards and other PC components packed in bubble wrap. All of them were fine. It is quite difficult to kill components by static.

Hmm.. static discharge is a current flow between two different potentials. Isolation is king - or high resistance to limit the current of the electrostatic discharge. I had a chair from which I always got incredibly large amounts of static charges and shocks.. I used a 1MOhm resistor I had laying around to discharge myself - I was tired of getting zapped.

So I'd keep the card and wrap at the same potential as long as possible. Place the wrap with the card onto something grounded, ideally an ESD mat. Ground yourself, give it time to discharge (leave it be for an hour or so) and then carefully unwrap it, ideally with a non-rubbing motion.

I wouldn't be to pessimistic - while RAM modules are memory ICs which have all pins directly exposed on the memory modules contacts, the graphics card is a different story - no open connections apart from the AGP/PCI/PCIe slot, which means current can flow other ways (termination resistors, GPU etc.) I had GPUs packed in weirdest ways, none of them died due to that.

Immerse the package in sulfur hexafluoride gas?

It's heavier than air, and has a HUGE dialectric.

An aquarium, or plastic storage tote would work.

tehsiggi wrote on Yesterday, 18:06:

Hmm.. static discharge is a current flow between two different potentials. Isolation is king - or high resistance to limit the current of the electrostatic discharge. I had a chair from which I always got incredibly large amounts of static charges and shocks.. I used a 1MOhm resistor I had laying around to discharge myself - I was tired of getting zapped.

So I'd keep the card and wrap at the same potential as long as possible. Place the wrap with the card onto something grounded, ideally an ESD mat. Ground yourself, give it time to discharge (leave it be for an hour or so) and then carefully unwrap it, ideally with a non-rubbing motion.

I wouldn't be to pessimistic - while RAM modules are memory ICs which have all pins directly exposed on the memory modules contacts, the graphics card is a different story - no open connections apart from the AGP/PCI/PCIe slot, which means current can flow other ways (termination resistors, GPU etc.) I had GPUs packed in weirdest ways, none of them died due to that.

The PC case is grounded. How about I put the bubble wrap inside my PC case? I can leave it there overnight, and then unwrap inside the case?

wierd_w wrote on Yesterday, 18:09:

Immerse the package in sulfur hexafluoride gas?

I don't think I can get sulfur hexafluoride gas, and it appears to be increasingly banned.

couple pumps from water mist spray bottle before opening should be enough?

rasz_pl wrote on Yesterday, 19:02:

couple pumps from water mist spray bottle before opening should be enough?

Interesting. How does that work?

havli wrote on Yesterday, 18:05:

It is quite difficult to kill components by static.

True, except if you are dealing with single small-signal MOSFETs like the classic 2N7000 outside of a circuit. While I can't remember killing anything else, I have killed multiple 2N7000 transistors by taking no anti-static precautions when handling them. Possibly old CD4000 ICs out of circuit may be vulnerable, too. As soon as the component is in-circuit, the clamping diodes in the chips work well to conduct the discharde energy into the decoupling capacitors on the supply rails, so no lethal voltages will develop.

Well, thinking more about it, I think I killed a USB thumb drive. We had awful carpets at the office that caused people walking around with the wrong kind of shoes to become very charged, and a co-worker handed me a thumb drive, which I touched at the other end. I could feel a quite strong zap when taking the drive, and it did not work afterwards. This kind of issue is easily avoided by touching ground (like the case of a PC connected to a grounded outlet) before handling hardware.

I killed 30pin simm when putting together my first pc on a carpet back in the nineties, first and last time I underestimated static.

mkarcher wrote on Yesterday, 19:13:

This kind of issue is easily avoided by touching ground (like the case of a PC connected to a grounded outlet) before handling hardware.

I always touch my PC case before and while handling PC parts.

If you are 0v, and the device is 0v, then there is no discharge and nothing to worry about.

If you are 0v, and the device is ?v, then the device will discharge to you - that can kill it.

If you are ?v, and the device is 0v, then you will discharge to the device - that can kill it.

If you are ?v, and the device is ?v, then... you're gambling but odds are a discharge will kill it.

Generally speaking, PC parts should always be 0v either by being grounded in a PC case, or by being 0v when placed into an antistatic container. So, generally speaking, touching ground to reset yourself to 0v makes contact safe. But, if the device is not 0v then you have a problem.

In my experience problems emerge when the PC part arrives charged to ?v, and putting bubble wrap through UK postal systems seems to charge it to ?v.

havli wrote on Yesterday, 18:05:

No need to worry, I bought dozens of videocards, motherboards and other PC components packed in bubble wrap. All of them were fine. It is quite difficult to kill components by static.

Generally not possible for either side to prove there was or wasn't damage, so no reasonable alternative to assuming that something shipped in bubble wrap without protection has by default been damaged.

MattRocks wrote on Yesterday, 19:04:

rasz_pl wrote on Yesterday, 19:02:

couple pumps from water mist spray bottle before opening should be enough?

Interesting. How does that work?

https://airtecsolutions.com/blog/airtec-blog/ … nto%20the%20air.

A few times when I received bubble-wrapped rare or expensive items, I opened them under water. Soaked is better than zapped, and most of the stuff needs a proper wash anyway 😉

quicknick wrote on Yesterday, 23:37:

A few times when I received bubble-wrapped rare or expensive items, I opened them under water. Soaked is better than zapped, and most of the stuff needs a proper wash anyway 😉

You are the second person to mention water, and using water scares me because I don't understand what is going on with that.

100% humidity is the maximum the air can carry, and link above says, ".. the optimum humidity level .. typically between 40 and 60% RH .."

Maybe better to unwrap it on a day when weather forecast says relative humidity is ~50%?

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quicknick wrote on Yesterday, 23:37:

A few times when I received bubble-wrapped rare or expensive items, I opened them under water. Soaked is better than zapped, and most of the stuff needs a proper wash anyway 😉

You are the second person to mention water, and using water scares me because I don't understand what is going on with that.

100% humidity is the maximum the air can carry, and link above says, ".. the optimum humidity level .. typically between 40 and 60% RH .."

Maybe better to unwrap it on a day when weather forecast says relative humidity is ~50%?

Well.. electrostatic charge can only build up if there is no discharge path. If you go and touch something that is charged, you get zapped because you are the discharge path. Now if the humidity is high, the air provides a somewhat high resistance discharge path through which the discharge can happen "naturally".

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quicknick wrote on Yesterday, 23:37:

A few times when I received bubble-wrapped rare or expensive items, I opened them under water. Soaked is better than zapped, and most of the stuff needs a proper wash anyway 😉

You are the second person to mention water, and using water scares me because I don't understand what is going on with that.

100% humidity is the maximum the air can carry, and link above says, ".. the optimum humidity level .. typically between 40 and 60% RH .."

Maybe better to unwrap it on a day when weather forecast says relative humidity is ~50%?

Well.. electrostatic charge can only build up if there is no discharge path. If you go and touch something that is charged, you get zapped because you are the discharge path. Now if the humidity is high, the air provides a somewhat high resistance discharge path through which the discharge can happen "naturally".

Optimal ~50% RH in the air is not the same as spraying water on the package, or putting the package in a bucket of water. Breathing onto the package could be ~90% RH, which is closer to the optimal ~50%.

Maybe the best approach using an ordinary home with no specialist equipment might be to take a hot shower. Then, when the bathroom is no longer steaming wet, use an extension cable to bring the PC into the bathroom. Then, unwrap the package in the grounded PC case. Thoughts? 😀

Or maybe don't even need that. Just take a shower with the package in the room, then take the package to the PC case for unwrapping.

I wouldn't worry too much about it, by the time you receive a hardware it was handled by a bunch of people who never even heard of ESD protection.
The original buyer who used it for years and put it in the attic before taking it to the dump in a cardboard box, the workers at the recycling center who manhandled it and put it in a huge pile of e-waste out in the sun and rain, the reseller who bought the scrap pile and got it shipped by a logistics company that kicked around the package some more, the small time reseller who bought individual items for testing and selling, a hobby enthusiast who bought it and fiddled with it until he got bored of it and sold it to you. It's literally impossible to tell what really kills a card after all that abuse. It's all luck, the majority of people couldn't pack things properly if their life depended on it.