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Reply 31240 of 31262, by Nexxen

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I really hope someone gets them.
US people unite and go get them PCs!!

The guy explains at the beginning the ownership passage.
They are common law, they are UK strange on law level 😀

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Reply 31241 of 31262, by MattRocks

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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-25, 12:19:
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I really hope someone gets them.
US people unite and go get them PCs!!

The guy explains at the beginning the ownership passage.
They are common law, they are UK strange on law level 😀

It's not clear to me from the intro.

I know that in Detroit, decades of job losses and population decline meant fewer taxpayers and the 2008 financial crises impacted Detroit more than other cities - with family homes being literally unsellable a lot of people went bankrupt. I seem to remember Detroit houses auctioning for $5 only! The city of Detroit filed for bankruptcy in 2013. But when I search for the current status, it appears various housing organisations have been stepping in to resolve the problems and then going bankrupt in the process! They are creating abandoned houses with incomplete paper trails and the biggest legal mess imaginable.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/ … ee-property-tax

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 31242 of 31262, by Nexxen

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MattRocks wrote on 2026-04-25, 14:15:
It's not clear to me from the intro. […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-25, 12:19:
@Living @Mattrocks […]
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@Living @Mattrocks

I really hope someone gets them.
US people unite and go get them PCs!!

The guy explains at the beginning the ownership passage.
They are common law, they are UK strange on law level 😀

It's not clear to me from the intro.

I know that in Detroit, decades of job losses and population decline meant fewer taxpayers and the 2008 financial crises impacted Detroit more than other cities - with family homes being literally unsellable a lot of people went bankrupt. I seem to remember Detroit houses auctioning for $5 only! The city of Detroit filed for bankruptcy in 2013. But when I search for the current status, it appears various housing organisations have been stepping in to resolve the problems and then going bankrupt in the process! They are creating abandoned houses with incomplete paper trails and the biggest legal mess imaginable.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/ … ee-property-tax

They had entire neighborhoods wiped by debt.
Personally I couldn't believe it.
I know a few smaller banks let the people stay for a dollar a month instead of taking back a property that had no value then.
Today it's a case study. Detroit was a symbol even in movies, but when Robocop gets fired you know things ain't good.

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

- "One hates the specialty unobtainium parts, the other laughs in greed listing them under a ridiculous price" - kotel studios
- Bare metal ist krieg.

Reply 31243 of 31262, by Ozzuneoj

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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-25, 09:39:
Not really correct post but I was watching this: https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330 […]
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Not really correct post but I was watching this:
https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330

and noticed the pc behind the guy. I can't remember what it was but sure it's a piece of retrotech.

And there's more later on... 😀

The CRT on the left is a Compudyne.

The tower on the table behind the bust seems to be an NEC Ready system of some sort.

There is a portable computer on top of the printer\plotter(?) next to the NEC. After some google sleuthing, I am pretty sure it is a Zenith MinisPort.

I haven't watched any more of the video... but there is probably some really cool stuff there. Hopefully someone can get in there to save that computer equipment from further neglect.

EDIT: Just clicked through the video a bit and I see some newer systems from the 2000s, I think a Dell from the mid 2000s, and at least one old Computer Shopper magazine decaying in a heap in the basement.

The person that lived there was definitely not living in a healthy way even before the house was abandoned.

... still, with a respirator and some good gloves + boots, I'd dig through that place. 😅

Last edited by Ozzuneoj on 2026-04-25, 20:04. Edited 1 time in total.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 31244 of 31262, by MattRocks

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giantenemycat wrote on 2026-04-23, 23:36:
Got the dodgy negative done professionally. It was indeed an AST Bravo MS/LC (probably LC) 51xx/52xx from the 1997 430TX series! […]
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giantenemycat wrote on 2026-04-20, 01:14:
MattRocks wrote on 2026-04-19, 06:30:
My understanding is that we don't actually forget anything. Instead, what happens is certain memories become hard to access due […]
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My understanding is that we don't actually forget anything. Instead, what happens is certain memories become hard to access due to bandwidth limitations.

And, we don't index or recall our memories in chronological order. Instead, we recall them by associations (smells, motions, emotions, temperature, heart rate, etc.)

So if you model how you completely felt when you were fixing your PC, and relive that complete set of associations, it's possible you might recall technical specifications you once knew.

But beware - when you recall memories, you also write new memories of recalling memories (recursion) and so un-recalled detail can be buried even further! Given that sensitivity, you might not benefit from a half-arsed practice run.

This is, imho, the entire thesis of therapy in a single post because if you think about it.. a person is the sum of their memories, and the way a person experiences anything is really just an effect of how they remember experiencing something else..

I don't trust my memories tbh. In the lifetime of that PC I was 6-12, and all I knew about PCs was that they had the Pentiums - Pentium this, Pentium that. In fact I remember telling people I had a Pentium II, but a printed Windows resource summary report I found a couple years ago indicates it was actually just a Pentium (MMX). So why was I so sure it was a PII?

I only think I know what PC it was because of that report, thanks to the BIOS revision and date listed. And some elements of the design do ring a bell, while some others kinda don't. So could be a red herring. I just need enough detail from that potato photo after processing the negative to tell if it's this specific AST Bravo LC/MS 51xx/52xx series chassis design. If it's not, then RIP.

Got the dodgy negative done professionally. It was indeed an AST Bravo MS/LC (probably LC) 51xx/52xx from the 1997 430TX series! Now I can just about make out the sticker above the W95 one is the plain blue "Intel Pentium" sticker, not MMX. So that narrows it down LC 5166 or 5200. No way to tell if the CPU was upgraded by my dad's friend before he sold it to him though. Probably not?

It was definitely a choice to have the left speaker underneath, next to the printer. Much like the bright green painted walls were also...interesting. And of course I've got my stack of Sold Out Software games at the bottom.

Anyone think they can figure out what monitor that is?

I found nothing conclusive.

First I flicked through a 1993 magazine and saw few monitors with the same general shape - no match. I did find a list of Mitsubishi (MGA) and MAG monitors for sale, and searched for those models - no match, but not all models returned results. I saw no MGA logo on any monitors. MAG typically have compressed letters followed by a logo, so I could not rule them out. Next, I flicked through a 1991 magazine. The general shape of your monitor was more common in 1991 than 1993 but the magazine I flicked through had poor images - no match. I didn't find a list of monitors sold in 1991. I saw only two brands position their logo top-left: IBM and CompuAdd. The EnergyStar logo can also appear in top corners from 1992.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 31245 of 31262, by MattRocks

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-04-25, 19:25:
The CRT on the left is a Compudyne. […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-25, 09:39:
Not really correct post but I was watching this: https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330 […]
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Not really correct post but I was watching this:
https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330

and noticed the pc behind the guy. I can't remember what it was but sure it's a piece of retrotech.

And there's more later on... 😀

The CRT on the left is a Compudyne.

The tower on the table behind the bust seems to be an NEC Ready system of some sort.

There is a portable computer on top of the printer\plotter(?) next to the NEC. After some google sleuthing, I am pretty sure it is a Zenith MinisPort.

I haven't watched any more of the video... but there is probably some really cool stuff there. Hopefully someone can get in there to save that computer equipment from further neglect.

EDIT: Just clicked through the video a bit and I see some newer systems from the 2000s, I think a Dell from the mid 2000s, and at least one old Computer Shopper magazine decaying in a heap in the basement.

The person that lived there was definitely not living in a healthy way even before the house was abandoned.

... still, with a respirator and some good gloves + boots, I'd dig through that place. 😅

Did you see the shelves of PCs nearer the end of the video? That was no casual PC owner. I'd offer a free house clearance.

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 31246 of 31262, by Nexxen

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MattRocks wrote on 2026-04-25, 20:23:
Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-04-25, 19:25:
The CRT on the left is a Compudyne. […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-25, 09:39:
Not really correct post but I was watching this: https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330 […]
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Not really correct post but I was watching this:
https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330

and noticed the pc behind the guy. I can't remember what it was but sure it's a piece of retrotech.

And there's more later on... 😀

The CRT on the left is a Compudyne.

The tower on the table behind the bust seems to be an NEC Ready system of some sort.

There is a portable computer on top of the printer\plotter(?) next to the NEC. After some google sleuthing, I am pretty sure it is a Zenith MinisPort.

I haven't watched any more of the video... but there is probably some really cool stuff there. Hopefully someone can get in there to save that computer equipment from further neglect.

EDIT: Just clicked through the video a bit and I see some newer systems from the 2000s, I think a Dell from the mid 2000s, and at least one old Computer Shopper magazine decaying in a heap in the basement.

The person that lived there was definitely not living in a healthy way even before the house was abandoned.

... still, with a respirator and some good gloves + boots, I'd dig through that place. 😅

Did you see the shelves of PCs nearer the end of the video? That was no casual PC owner. I'd offer a free house clearance.

Yeah, the dude in there had some interesting stuff.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-04-25, 19:25:
The CRT on the left is a Compudyne. […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-25, 09:39:
Not really correct post but I was watching this: https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330 […]
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Not really correct post but I was watching this:
https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330

and noticed the pc behind the guy. I can't remember what it was but sure it's a piece of retrotech.

And there's more later on... 😀

The CRT on the left is a Compudyne.

The tower on the table behind the bust seems to be an NEC Ready system of some sort.

There is a portable computer on top of the printer\plotter(?) next to the NEC. After some google sleuthing, I am pretty sure it is a Zenith MinisPort.

I haven't watched any more of the video... but there is probably some really cool stuff there. Hopefully someone can get in there to save that computer equipment from further neglect.

EDIT: Just clicked through the video a bit and I see some newer systems from the 2000s, I think a Dell from the mid 2000s, and at least one old Computer Shopper magazine decaying in a heap in the basement.

The person that lived there was definitely not living in a healthy way even before the house was abandoned.

... still, with a respirator and some good gloves + boots, I'd dig through that place. 😅

I'd go for sure. It's all gonna end in some landfill IMO.

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

- "One hates the specialty unobtainium parts, the other laughs in greed listing them under a ridiculous price" - kotel studios
- Bare metal ist krieg.

Reply 31247 of 31262, by bakemono

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Finally got audio to work on a big ugly laptop known as Gateway M680. It has an intel 915 chipset and the sound device has an 8086 vendor ID (device 266E) but drivers from other i915 laptops would not work. After trying half a dozen drivers that would install but not load (mostly with the ever informative "code 10") the one that finally worked was something called VIA Vinyl AC'97.

GBAJAM 2024 submission on itch: https://90soft90.itch.io/wreckage

Reply 31248 of 31262, by appiah4

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26 years later, the dream has come true. I can now enjoy Windows 2000 as it was meant to be, instead of my single core PIII-500 with 128MB RAM.

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Reply 31249 of 31262, by tehsiggi

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At least I got my hands today on the Radeon 9800 Pro with XT layout.. a broken one of course.. the fault is also already found to 99%, however something else caught my eye..

It came with a Revoltec Graphics Freezer - something I haven't seen in decades.. however.. whoever installed it, didn't do the card any favor..

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I'm sincerely lost for words.

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Reply 31250 of 31262, by MattRocks

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🤣 🤣 🤣

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 31251 of 31262, by tehsiggi

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Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty tomorrow.

A repair that introduces a nice hack for anybody who faces the same issue / ripped off part. The repair report will probably follow tomorrow..

We went from not booting or only occasionally like this:

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To this:

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Reply 31252 of 31262, by Nexxen

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tehsiggi wrote on 2026-04-27, 12:49:
Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty […]
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Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty tomorrow.

A repair that introduces a nice hack for anybody who faces the same issue / ripped off part. The repair report will probably follow tomorrow..

We went from not booting or only occasionally like this:

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To this:

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I'm interested. It's ram but what's the cause, if it is lunch break limited time solution finding??
Mistery 😀

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

- "One hates the specialty unobtainium parts, the other laughs in greed listing them under a ridiculous price" - kotel studios
- Bare metal ist krieg.

Reply 31253 of 31262, by BitWrangler

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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-27, 13:15:
tehsiggi wrote on 2026-04-27, 12:49:
Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty […]
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Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty tomorrow.

A repair that introduces a nice hack for anybody who faces the same issue / ripped off part. The repair report will probably follow tomorrow..

We went from not booting or only occasionally like this:

The attachment 98pxt_broken.jpg is no longer available

To this:

The attachment 98pxt_alive.jpg is no longer available

I'm interested. It's ram but what's the cause, if it is lunch break limited time solution finding??
Mistery 😀

Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so... the principle of the Bistromath drive. So any and all amounts of time are implied. 😉

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 31254 of 31262, by tehsiggi

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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-27, 13:15:
tehsiggi wrote on 2026-04-27, 12:49:
Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty […]
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Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty tomorrow.

A repair that introduces a nice hack for anybody who faces the same issue / ripped off part. The repair report will probably follow tomorrow..

We went from not booting or only occasionally like this:

The attachment 98pxt_broken.jpg is no longer available

To this:

The attachment 98pxt_alive.jpg is no longer available

I'm interested. It's ram but what's the cause, if it is lunch break limited time solution finding??
Mistery 😀

I'll have to keep you waiting till tomorrow, no more time in the lab today. But I was able to transfer things learned from my 9500 Pro repair to this 9800 Pro as well.
I guess at some point I'll start writing some "R300 Repair guide" - If I ever find the time.

But due to the right methods in diagnosis the repair itself was more or less pretty straight forward 😀

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Reply 31255 of 31262, by Nexxen

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tehsiggi wrote on 2026-04-27, 13:39:
I'll have to keep you waiting till tomorrow, no more time in the lab today. But I was able to transfer things learned from my 95 […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-27, 13:15:
tehsiggi wrote on 2026-04-27, 12:49:
Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty […]
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Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty tomorrow.

A repair that introduces a nice hack for anybody who faces the same issue / ripped off part. The repair report will probably follow tomorrow..

We went from not booting or only occasionally like this:

The attachment 98pxt_broken.jpg is no longer available

To this:

The attachment 98pxt_alive.jpg is no longer available

I'm interested. It's ram but what's the cause, if it is lunch break limited time solution finding??
Mistery 😀

I'll have to keep you waiting till tomorrow, no more time in the lab today. But I was able to transfer things learned from my 9500 Pro repair to this 9800 Pro as well.
I guess at some point I'll start writing some "R300 Repair guide" - If I ever find the time.

But due to the right methods in diagnosis the repair itself was more or less pretty straight forward 😀

Could you tag me? I have a 9250 in dire need of a diagnosis.

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

- "One hates the specialty unobtainium parts, the other laughs in greed listing them under a ridiculous price" - kotel studios
- Bare metal ist krieg.

Reply 31256 of 31262, by Nexxen

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BitWrangler wrote on 2026-04-27, 13:32:
Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-27, 13:15:
tehsiggi wrote on 2026-04-27, 12:49:
Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty […]
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Anyways.. I got the card happy again - fix is not permanent yet - typical lunchbreak repair. But I'll fix it properly and pretty tomorrow.

A repair that introduces a nice hack for anybody who faces the same issue / ripped off part. The repair report will probably follow tomorrow..

We went from not booting or only occasionally like this:

The attachment 98pxt_broken.jpg is no longer available

To this:

The attachment 98pxt_alive.jpg is no longer available

I'm interested. It's ram but what's the cause, if it is lunch break limited time solution finding??
Mistery 😀

Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so... the principle of the Bistromath drive. So any and all amounts of time are implied. 😉

Can't argue on that.
Summa cum laude.

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

- "One hates the specialty unobtainium parts, the other laughs in greed listing them under a ridiculous price" - kotel studios
- Bare metal ist krieg.

Reply 31257 of 31262, by tehsiggi

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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-27, 14:18:
tehsiggi wrote on 2026-04-27, 13:39:
I'll have to keep you waiting till tomorrow, no more time in the lab today. But I was able to transfer things learned from my 95 […]
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Nexxen wrote on 2026-04-27, 13:15:

I'm interested. It's ram but what's the cause, if it is lunch break limited time solution finding??
Mistery 😀

I'll have to keep you waiting till tomorrow, no more time in the lab today. But I was able to transfer things learned from my 9500 Pro repair to this 9800 Pro as well.
I guess at some point I'll start writing some "R300 Repair guide" - If I ever find the time.

But due to the right methods in diagnosis the repair itself was more or less pretty straight forward 😀

Could you tag me? I have a 9250 in dire need of a diagnosis.

Sure will do, will have to wait now though. Time ran short this morning and I'll on traveling the next two days.

However good news. We figured out why the eBay Seller had issues with sending the 9800XT to.. it appears 260 is not the same as 290 for delivery. 😁 The 9800XT will be on its way this afternoon.

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Reply 31258 of 31262, by ubiq

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Been spending some time checking out early 00's demoscene output. Interesting time of rapidly changing hardware. Surprisingly a lot of early Win2k adoption. Early 3d accelerated experiments as well as software rendering holdouts. Not too much 3dfx/glide stuff, but a lot of OpenGL. Which reminded me of the existence of GLSetup. I remember that being a pretty sweet util/driver back in the day, but can't remember what exactly it did. Can anyone refresh my memory - when did it make sense to use GLSetup, and is there any reason to care about these days in retro systems?

Reply 31259 of 31262, by Susanin79

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It was a very long and not easy journey, but I did it. The Linux rescue floppies that will work on my 486 EISA build with network and my SCSI drive support are ready.
I know that this is not a unique case, but all available 486 Linux boot floppies are unable to boot on my Digicom 486 EISA board with the AMI BIOS.
Now I can image SCSI hard drive over the network and transfer my Linux From Scratch image to the real HDD. My idea to build and run the modern (6.14.11 kernel) Linux on a 486 now almost completed.