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First post, by ciornyi

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Hello there ,

I have question about pc around year 99 i was used then . All i remember it has celeron mendocino ~500mhz , 8 mb ATI card and socket 370 board acorp or luckystar or even else. So my question is what was available from that time as my search throught ultimate retro didnot gave me any clue. Only matched thing is LX based board but possible not .Also videocard is another mystery it has yellow pcb whitch was rare for ati. Im not going to match exact specs or parts but would like to get info whitch help me in building something around with part i do have. I used to play porsche unleashed and was playable. Any advice would be much appreciated.

DOS: 166mmx/16mb/Y719/S3virge
DOS/95: PII333/128mb/AWE64/TNT2M64
Win98: P3 900/256mb/SB live/3dfx V3
Win Me: Athlon 1333/256mb/Audigy2/Geforce 2 GTS
Win XP: E8500/4096mb/SB X-fi/Quadro fx 4500

Reply 1 of 4, by marxveix

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Intel 440EX was similar to 440LX. If you are talking about ATi 8MB card, then it is probably Rage Pro / Rage XL or Rage128 8MB. I think Rage128Pro was 16-32MB.

If you dont want 8MB and it can be more, then take Rage128Pro 16MB, it was ATi low budget card from 1999.

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
30+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi Rage3 cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 2 of 4, by rasz_pl

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yellow rage pro turbo 8mb https://www.512bit.net/ati/ati_rage_pro_turbo.html
and 2c https://www.512bit.net/ati/ati_rage_iic.html

low budget 1999 would be 440LX or Intel 810 or VIA. Intel 810 is unlikely if you had actual discrete video card.

>I used to play porsche unleashed and was playable

surprisingly yes 😮 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3USSO836998 albeit closer to 20 fps on Celeron

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/440BX Reference Design adapted to Kicad

Reply 3 of 4, by marxveix

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It cant be Rage2C, it would be very low framerate if it even starts with RageII and Need For Speed Porche Unleashed.
Here another Rage Mobility 8MB (CR216S): https://www.vgamuseum.info/index.php/cpu/item … rage-mobility-p

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
30+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi Rage3 cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 4 of 4, by andrea

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A competent low budget build with ATI graphics would be LX, after BX came out no one wanted LX motherboards and the manufacturers used the leftover LX chips on Celeron socket 370 designs.
BX/ZX maybe but those were mostly Slot 1. Did ZX66 exist anywhere other than in Intel's datasheets?
Less good would be a 691/693 Apollo but I'd rather not. Perhaps a quality 693A board but nothing earlier. 694 isgood but those came out later.

i810 with PCI video is possibile but makes no sense.

Graphics card would probably be some flavour of Rage Pro from a random taiwanese company. If you're lucky maybe even one of those with Mobility chips for extra driver fun.

A good replacement could be a OEM Rage 128 from a name brand prebuilt (say Vectra, Optiplex, Deskpro...). They are almost always cut-down designs with a 64 bit memory bus, but have very good output quality and still slighly faster than a good Rage Pro.

There were also several LX/BX/ZX motherboards, both 370 and slot 1, that have an onboard 8 MB Rage Pro AGP, and competent sound aswell (usually Soundblaster PCI or ESS Solo or Maestro). This could also be a neat turn-key solution, and as they lack an AGP slot I can't imagine they could be too expensive.