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RivaTuner vs PowerStrip

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First post, by MattRocks

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Back in the day I used PowerStrip to tune my FPS in games. I remember RivaTuner and discarding it, but I could not remember why.

Today, in front of me is a Radeon 9200 with 4ns VRAM rated to 250MHz, which the VBIOS clocks at 200MHz.

So, naively, I used RivaTuner to set 250MHz. Nothing much happened. Obviously, what I observed is that 3DMark performance generally scales with MHz set using RivaTuner but its not linear. Furthermore, what surprised me is that every frequency set by RivaTuner produced lower FPS than the stock 200MHz.

Anyway, my nagging old memories made me dig out an old copy of PowerStrip. The results are very different. I stupidly went straight to 250MHz because 250MHz had already been exercised in RivaTuner with no artefacts. And, what surprised me is that with PowerStrip artefacts immediately appeared (quickly ESC that).

Now for the control test: What happens if RivaTuner is used to manually set the same default 200MHz frequency? Why would anyone do that? Anyway, my test today shows the frame rate performance drops by almost 15%!

As the RivaTuner set 200MHz performs significantly worse than the VBIOS set 200MHz, my hypothesis is that although RivaTuner can set higher frequencies, it can do so only because it is triggering looser CL timings that worsen performance and lower FPS. This feels entirely consistent with my memories of tuning game performance decades ago. What I could not see then, and that I do see now, is that degradation is not linear.

Radeon 9200 128-bit, Catalyst 4.1, 3DMark2001SE

VBIOS
250/200 -> 6861

RivaTuner
250/250 -> 6843
275/250 -> 6767
230/250 -> 6747
275/200 -> 6722
275/220 -> 6716
250/200 -> 5917
(other frequencies tested and they did not seem interesting enough to write down)

ATi Tools
262/210 -> 5921 (5929 with clock lock disabled, but not)
(consistent with RivaTuner results and alert prompt suggests Catalyst applies a safety mode, see next post)

PowerStrip
275/250 -> cancelled/artefacts

More testing needed, but can someone please help bring me up to speed on where this has been explored before?

Last edited by MattRocks on 2026-08-20, 13:01. Edited 4 times in total.

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Reply 2 of 4, by MattRocks

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tehsiggi wrote on Today, 11:05:

Can you give ATI Tool a try as well? In the past I'd clock those cards with neither of those tools, but ATITool

ATi Tools gives an alert prompt, "These cards are locked against overclocking when using original Catalyst drivers"

That is misleading because we see change in MHz resulting in change in FPS but clearly ATi are trying to dissuade overclocking.

Without mitigation: I set 262/210 using ATi Tools and GPU-z read back 262/210 numbers. Whether the core and memory executed at the ATi Tools-set 262/210 or Catalyst-set 250/200 is besides the point. The point is, the actual output (5921 3D Marks) is lower than when VBIOS set 250/200. With mitigation: Disabled the clock-lock in ATi Tools and it read back 262/210 (5929 3D Marks).

Does anyone have a copy of the standalone ATi Radeon Softmod please? I have the Omega drivers but they are unsafe in a system that frequently swaps between different Radeons.

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Reply 3 of 4, by BitWrangler

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Other oldschool options (shields up on this site and only click the DL link with the military theme) https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/rage3d_tweak.html

Aside from memory timings, I also recall there were sweet spots between relative core and memory speeds, where you could get things happen like the benches jumping 10% by dropping RAM speed a couple of clicks, or finding the next "magic number" upwards.

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Reply 4 of 4, by The Serpent Rider

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ATi Tray Tools is also an option.

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