pete8475 wrote on 2020-07-23, 15:46:

Ran that program, hopefully these screens show you what you want to know.

Thank you and yes, I have the same CPU and am pretty sure CPUZ ran OK on it last time I tried it. Can you boot NT/2K/XP on that system? If you can it would be interesting to see what Menu->Hardware->CPUID->CPU-0 reports, below is what I get on my CPU.

CuPid wrote on 2020-07-23, 18:01:

Thanks. It is strange because the K6-2 is supposed to support the MSR. Well ...

I assume it's MSR C0000087 it was trying to read and my identical Family 5 Model 8 (08) Stepping 12 CPU has it.

This makes no sense at all as my CPU should be the same and has C0000087, but your 'fixed' CPUZ no longer reports the FSB speed.

red-ray wrote on 2020-07-23, 20:03:

Thank you and yes, I have the same CPU and am pretty sure CPUZ ran OK on it last time I tried it. Can you boot NT/2K/XP on that system? If you can it would be interesting to see what Menu->Hardware->CPUID->CPU-0 reports, below is what I get on my CPU.

I'll load up XP on it and try that out shortly. Just need to find another CF card first.

EDIT - XP is installing now.

EDIT 2 - Forgive me if I'm a bit thick but I have no idea what these instructions are asking me to do "If you can it would be interesting to see what Menu->Hardware->CPUID->CPU-0 reports, below is what I get on my CPU." Do you want me to run CPU-Z in XP? If so what version and do you want me to run that other program too?

pete8475 wrote on 2020-07-23, 22:00:

red-ray wrote on 2020-07-23, 20:03:

Thank you and yes, I have the same CPU and am pretty sure CPUZ ran OK on it last time I tried it. Can you boot NT/2K/XP on that system? If you can it would be interesting to see what Menu->Hardware->CPUID->CPU-0 reports, below is what I get on my CPU.

I'll load up XP on it and try that out shortly. Just need to find another CF card first.

Thank you, it's really strange that your CPU does not seem to have MSR C0000087 and mine does.

With NT/2K/XP and later we can use an SEH (Structured Exception Handler) in our drivers to catch the 'BSOD' and deal with it so SIV should be able to tell if that MSR is there or not. SIV has Menu->Hardware->MSRs->MSRs K6 which should list all the AMD K6 MSRs that exist, but rather than post screen shots ideally post the two Menu->File->Save Local files as there may be other things I need to check.

pete8475 wrote on 2020-07-23, 22:00:

EDIT 2 - Forgive me if I'm a bit thick but I have no idea what these instructions are asking me to do "If you can it would be interesting to see what Menu->Hardware->CPUID->CPU-0 reports, below is what I get on my CPU."
Do you want me to run CPU-Z in XP? If so what version and do you want me to run that other program too?

It's just SIV32L V5.51 Beta-02 I wish you to run and does as attached help clarify?

red-ray wrote on 2020-07-23, 22:25:

pete8475 wrote on 2020-07-23, 22:00:

EDIT 2 - Forgive me if I'm a bit thick but I have no idea what these instructions are asking me to do "If you can it would be interesting to see what Menu->Hardware->CPUID->CPU-0 reports, below is what I get on my CPU."
Do you want me to run CPU-Z in XP? If so what version and do you want me to run that other program too?

It's just what SIV32L V5.51 Beta-02 I wish you to run and does as attached help clarify?

Yes it sure does! I had no idea there was a menu drop down if you clicked there.

I will do exactly what you want when XP is done installing.

Ok ran SIV32X in XP and just out of curiosity the latest CPU-Z in XP as well (no crash).

Attached is the SIV32X report and a screenshot from the latest CPU-Z.

pete8475 wrote on 2020-07-23, 23:53:

Ok ran SIV32X in XP and just out of curiosity the latest CPU-Z in XP as well (no crash).

Thank you, but please may I also have F:\SIV32X\SIV_9590DF9758454F9.dmi (attach a .ZIP as .DMI is not allowed)? This is a binary dump of the raw data that the [Machine] page reports and I would like to so I can address SIV reporting 4 DIMMs when there are in reality only two. This is caused by the SMBIOS data being wonky.

Looking in the [msrs] section and at [CPUID CPU-0] then as I suspected MSR C0000087 exists so CPUZ-W9x should be able to read it and report the FSB speed.

In general reading MSRs on W9x is problematic, I just wish it was possible to use a SEH (Structured Exception Handler) as it the case on NT4 and later.

1 MSR   Value EDX : EAX      Value EDX : EAX      Value EDX : EAX      Value EDX : EAX    MSR  [Y]Current
20000:  00000000 : 00000000  00000000 : 00000000                                        :0003  [CPU-0   ]
3000C:                                            00000000 : 00000000                   :000F
40010:  00000055 : 9C65C638                                                             :0013  [_]Select   Total
50FFC:                                                                                  :0FFF  [CPU-0   ]  4
6
7
8 MSR       Value EDX : EAX      Value EDX : EAX      Value EDX : EAX      Value EDX : EAX        MSR      [Y]Current
9C0000000:                                                                                      :C0000003  [CPU-0   ]
10C0000080:  00000000 : 00000002  00000000 : 00000000  00000000 : 10010000                       :C0000083
11C0000084:                       00000000 : E001FFE2                       00000000 : 000001C6  :C0000087  [_]Select
12C0000088:  00000000 : 00000000                                                                 :C000008B  [CPU-0   ]  Total
13C00001FC:                                                                                      :C00001FF  6

1CPU-0 AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (AMD K6-2 (Chomper)) [CXT]  STK 400.719MHz  CPU 400.719MHz  FSB 66.787MHz  L2 66.787MHz  WIN 400.000MHz
2
3  [Y]CPUID     EAX       EBX       ECX       EDX
4  00000000  00000001  68747541  444D4163  69746E65  [Y]"AuthenticAMD"
5  00000001  0000058C  00000000  00000000  008021BF  [_]09 APIC 0x00 [_]16 Count 0                   [_]15 CMOV [Y]08 CX8  [Y]04 TSC [Y]03 PSE
6
7  40000000  00000000
8
9  80000000  80000005  00000000  00000000  00000000  [_]"            "
10  80000001  0000068C  00000000  00000000  808029BF  [_]29 x64 Support   [_]27 RDTSCP Support        [_]26 1GB Large Page [_]20 Execute Disable
11  80000002  2D444D41  7428364B  3320296D  72702044
12  80000003  7365636F  00726F73  00000000  00000000
13  80000004  00000000  00000000  00000000  00000000  [Y]"AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor"
14  80000005  00000000  02800140  20020220  20020220  [Y]L1C   32KB   2-way  32-byte line             [Y]L1D   32KB   2-way  32-byte line
15
16  80860000  00000000
17
18  C0000000  00000000
19
20  8FFFFFFF  4778654E  72656E65  6F697461  444D416E  [Y]"NexGenerationAMD"
21
22  [Y]MSR       EDX       EAX    Thermal   00000000                                                  [_]16 TSCIV [_]17 SLAT [Y]00 Flags 0000000000008002
23  C0000080  00000000  00000002  IA32_EFER           [_]11 XD Disabled   [_]10 IA32e Mode Inactive   [_]08 IA32e Disabled [_]00 SYSCALL Disabled
24  C0000087  00000000  000001C6                      a 06  c 18 (x6)
25
26[  OK ]  [ Copy]   [Windows]  [Processors][Features] [Groups]   [ NUMA]  [ CPU-0]   [Cache-0]

red-ray wrote on 2020-07-24, 07:52:

pete8475 wrote on 2020-07-23, 23:53:

Ok ran SIV32X in XP and just out of curiosity the latest CPU-Z in XP as well (no crash).

Thank you, but please may I also have F:\SIV32X\SIV_9590DF9758454F9.dmi (attach a .ZIP as .DMI is not allowed)? This is a binary dump of the raw data that the [Machine] page reports and I would like to so I can address SIV reporting 4 DIMMs when there are in reality only two. This is caused by the SMBIOS data being wonky.

Sure, here it is.

I've just released a new version of cpu-z vintage edition (1.02).
The new features are :
- AMD K5 model 0 (SSA/5).
- Improved support of Cyrix Cx486DRx2/DRu2.
- Improved support of Ti486SXL/SXL2.
- Intel 430FX chipset.
- Opti 82C822 chipset.
- VIA VT82C505/VT82C486 chipset.

Official version : https://download.cpuid.com/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.02-win9x.zip
Beta version : http://download.cpuid.com/betas/cpuz_w95.zip

I'm currently working on adding the support of ISA/VLB video cards, if you have such a video card and are willing to help, you can use one the two versions listed above, save a Video BIOS dump from the tools button, and post it here. Thank you !

CuPid wrote on 2020-08-11, 15:00:

- Improved support of Ti486SXL/SXL2.

Is this the PGA132 or PGA168 version? If PGA168, what board were you able to run it in? Never found a suitable board yet.

debs3759 wrote on 2020-08-11, 15:26:

Is this the PGA132 or PGA168 version? If PGA168, what board were you able to run it in? Never found a suitable board yet.

Me neither, I have a PGA168 model and could never boot it.
For the software support I got the help of feipoa, he uses a PGA132 version.

IBM PS/2 Server 95/A with P66

It can't identify the mainboard, funny 🤣.

debs3759 wrote on 2020-08-11, 15:26:

CuPid wrote on 2020-08-11, 15:00:

- Improved support of Ti486SXL/SXL2.

Is this the PGA132 or PGA168 version? If PGA168, what board were you able to run it in? Never found a suitable board yet.

ti 486sxl @ pga168 works on exp4349 see 8 page Re: Need help to improve the support of 486/586/686 class CPUs in CPU-Z

Camtheman wrote on 2020-08-19, 23:14:

IBM PS/2 Server 95/A with P66

It can't identify the mainboard, funny 🤣.

Thanks for the report. Can you please post a TXT report ?

PiotrUU wrote on 2020-08-20, 16:31:

debs3759 wrote on 2020-08-11, 15:26:

CuPid wrote on 2020-08-11, 15:00:

- Improved support of Ti486SXL/SXL2.

Is this the PGA132 or PGA168 version? If PGA168, what board were you able to run it in? Never found a suitable board yet.

ti 486sxl @ pga168 works on exp4349 see 8 page Re: Need help to improve the support of 486/586/686 class CPUs in CPU-Z

What about the PGA132 version ? Is it well supported by the latest 386 mainboards ?

Camtheman wrote on 2020-08-19, 23:14:

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IBM PS/2 Server 95/A with P66

It can't identify the mainboard, funny 🤣.

It doesn't show any L2 cache either.

TechieDude wrote on 2020-09-03, 11:27:

It doesn't show any L2 cache either.

Thanks for the feedback. Can you please post a TXT report ?

CuPid wrote on 2020-09-03, 13:29:

TechieDude wrote on 2020-09-03, 11:27:

It doesn't show any L2 cache either.

Thanks for the feedback. Can you please post a TXT report ?

I was just referring to the screenshot. I don't even have any Socket 4 hardware to test unfortunately. Sorry.

CuPid wrote on 2020-08-24, 07:46:

Camtheman wrote on 2020-08-19, 23:14:

IBM PS/2 Server 95/A with P66

It can't identify the mainboard, funny 🤣.

Thanks for the report. Can you please post a TXT report ?

Yep here you go. Report says I don't have any graphics adapters - This computer has an IBM XGA/2 with 1MB vRAM.

The CPU speed reported by CPUZ is to say the least incorrect 🙁 Even with just CPUZ active it's wonky.