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Reply 100 of 118, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Found a list of emulators at Wikipedia! Haven't thought it has such a thing! ^^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compute … ystem_emulators

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Reply 101 of 118, by Jo22

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Quick update.

It might be possible to run more emulators on Win32s by the help of Tos2Win.
In essence, the Atari ST was the spritiual predecessor of a Win 3.x PC, after all.:

TOS consisted of CP/M 68k core and GEM environment, which share some similarities with DOS+Windows.
CP/M 68k, being CP/M, used a similar design like DOS, while GEM had similar APIs (VDI vs GDI).

This makes me wonder if it is possible to run, say, an ancient Mac 68k emulator on Tos2Win.
Since both use the Motorola 68000 CPU, there should be no "emulation inside emulation" speed penalty.

Edit: Some emulators for TOS/GEM are listed at this Atari page: https://www.atariuptodate.de/en/emulators/

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Reply 102 of 118, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Found a few more emulators.
I'll also update the older postings occasionally, by the way. 😀
Otherwise things become too messy, I'm afraid.

Please, if you have any recommendations, questions or ideas, please let me know.

Feel free to post your finds also;
as long as it is somehow related to emulation on Win 3.1x or Win32s, it's fine. 😀

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Reply 103 of 118, by Stiletto

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Jo22 wrote on 2020-10-01, 02:16:

Quick update.

Found a list of emulators at Wikipedia! Haven't thought it has such a thing! ^^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compute … ystem_emulators

Interesting list! 😀

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Reply 104 of 118, by quovadis11

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Jo22 wrote on 2020-10-01, 02:16:

Quick update.

Found a list of emulators at Wikipedia! Haven't thought it has such a thing! ^^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compute … ystem_emulators

Oh... such A LOT of emulators out there...

Reply 105 of 118, by Jo22

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Stiletto wrote on 2020-10-05, 02:49:
Jo22 wrote on 2020-10-01, 02:16:

Quick update.

Found a list of emulators at Wikipedia! Haven't thought it has such a thing! ^^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compute … ystem_emulators

Interesting list! 😀

quovadis11 wrote on 2020-10-05, 12:23:
Jo22 wrote on 2020-10-01, 02:16:

Quick update.

Found a list of emulators at Wikipedia! Haven't thought it has such a thing! ^^

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compute … ystem_emulators

Oh... such A LOT of emulators out there...

Thank! 😁 I've found a few more, even though they are less recent.:
https://www.vincenzoscarpa.it/biblioteca/retr … /emulators1.htm
https://www.vincenzoscarpa.it/biblioteca/retr … /emulators2.htm
https://www.vincenzoscarpa.it/biblioteca/retr … /emulators3.htm

The owner of the site also has another, wiki -like database of emulators (English/Italian).
He also wrote some short stories (Italian), which I would describe as bitter/sweet.
https://www.vincenzoscarpa.it

Last, but not least, I came across another emulator list.
It's kind of chart/table like, but has direct download links of old emulators (file names/full path):
http://terataki.fortunecity.ws/emulators/emul_table.html

I found it by accident when I looked for vMac v0.17 and vMac v0.18a for Windows originally.
What's funny/interesting, some of these old links work with in the wayback machine.

However, and now it gets interesting: Searching for the direct links gives a 1997 result sometimes! 😀
If you're asking wayback for a complete listing of the url, though, it won't display any results before 1998..

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Reply 106 of 118, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Not really an emulator by definition, but WinCLI is a nice command prompt simulator.
It can run on systems such as Wabi, for example, which do not support DOS programs out of box.

But yes, it's a bit of a far stretch really.
The expression of that anime character says it all.. 😉

You find the shareware version in this thread over here:
Running "MS-DOS prompt" in Windows 3.11 at 1.5MB RAM

PS: There are (or rather: were) also WINCMD and WinDOS.
See Win 3.1 utilities - WINCMD 1.4, instant exit?

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Reply 107 of 118, by Jo22

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Hello everyone, long time no see! ^^

Just want to let you know I'm still collecting old emulators..

Here's another little tool that's not really releated to emulation in the common sense, but still useful.

It's "Emulador de Teclado", which in Spanish language means "keyboard emulator".
So you guessed it, it's a virtual keyboard for Windows 3.x. 😀
The program is Freeware and comes with source code.

Edit: I did forget to attach the zip file. Silly me! 😅
Edit: Forgot to compile the project for you! Silly me again, hah! 😊

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Reply 108 of 118, by Jo22

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Quick update.

I've found a neat little description how the "Executor" emulator does (or rather : did) its magic! 😀
You can read it here.

PS: Executor was a quick, emulated environment of System.
It could run Macintosh applications on Windows, for example, without needing an actual copy of System or Toolbox.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executor_%28software%29

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Reply 109 of 118, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Found an old site dedicated to the Colecovision.. 😁
If I understand correctly, it was official and hosted some free, emulated games (Win/Mac)..

Edit : Intellivision.. Silly me! 😅

Last edited by Jo22 on 2021-03-24, 09:50. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 110 of 118, by Jo22

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Quick update.

I've found another emulator tool that's compatible with Windows 3.1x: MaxiDisk v4.2, a floppy tool.
- Big thanks to debs3759, who mentioned an old CP/M site in this thread: CP/M source code
Thanks to this, I stumbled upon this little utility.

Now, MaxiDisk seems to very interesting. It also has a TSR driver that adds support for special formats.
What's also interesting - The copyright dates back to 1988.
Also, some GUI elements are (pre-) Win3. 0-ish.. Could it be, that older releases originated from the Windows 2.x days? Hm? 🙂

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Reply 111 of 118, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Found some YT videos about "Gemulator, the Atari ST emulator for MS-DOS and Windows 3.1."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNOw3eyBygw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxZOAc5UI1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuG8I6epKug

The videos are a trilogy and apparently from the 1990s, judging by the hair cuts and the VHS-like quality. Enjoy! 🙂

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Reply 113 of 118, by Jo22

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xcomcmdr wrote on 2021-03-24, 19:51:

Nice find ! 😀

I didn't know there was so much emulators for good ol' Windows 3.1. 😀

Thanks! 😃

Me, neither! There's more than I hoped for! 😄
I guess we did already beat that wonderful emulation guide mentioned on page #1!

- But to be honest, discovering them was the work of hundreds of hours.. 😵

Many sites were dead and so I had to social engineer quite a lot.

Like, figuring out an authors older website that had a different URL.

Or experimenting with file names a lot. If say, "foo22.lzh" didn't exist, I tried combinations of different extensions and numbers ("f0022.zip") and so on.

Sometimes, this did lead me to other emulation sites that had dead links, too,
but had an archived twin at Wayback.

And these archived sites had links to other gone by emulation sites, which I followed - down to the mid-90s.

And if these sites had dead links to files, too, I did at least found out the file names of the initial versions, which sometimes were saved on servers accross the web.

That's why things took so long.
Also, I did test each of the emulators on Win32s before. 😀

I'll do my best to find some more - already found a few sophisticated terminal emulators for Win 3.1! 😉

By the way, in the process, I came across quite a few emulators for OS/2 Warp.. Is there any interest, by chance, too ? 😀

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Reply 114 of 118, by Stiletto

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Hopefully someone from https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/ is paying attention, not all of this they'd consider emulation but it probably has the most potential out of any website to capture the early days of emulation.

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Reply 115 of 118, by Jo22

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Thank you very much for your words of encouragement -I really appreciate it!
I'm very happy that there's an interest in this antique software
and that we managed to find almost all of them together which are listed on page one.
Sure, not all programs mentioned are emulators in the usual sense,
like the keyboard, command line and terminal emulators. They are rather gimmicks or extras. 😉

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Reply 116 of 118, by Bruninho

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Yeah, although I do not post a lot about, I have an interest, keep them coming up! I'm always reading here.

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Reply 117 of 118, by creepingnet

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Wow, so many emulators for Win3.1x - I'm kind of amazed I missed all this during my early days (2001-2005) of messing with 486s.

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Reply 118 of 118, by Bruninho

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Me too. I have never knew they existed until recently, when this thread started.

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