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Reply 180 of 199, by creepingnet

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Jo22 wrote on 2022-07-13, 01:25:
I see, thanks a lot for the information! 🙂👍 It's great that some parts of Geocities survived, I think. It had such a huge cultu […]
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creepingnet wrote on 2022-07-12, 19:38:
Jo22 wrote on 2022-03-31, 08:01:
Quick update. Saw an obscure "COMX PC1" computer at eBay and looked it up online. This brought me to that Emma02 emulator that […]
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Quick update. Saw an obscure "COMX PC1" computer at eBay and looked it up online.
This brought me to that Emma02 emulator that doesn't run on old Windows releases,
but also Jaap's Computer Garden.
That used to be a fine little site in 2000, I suppose.
Unfortunately, geocities is no more and the few sites that survived are incomplete. 😔
Anyway, if you feel nostalgic, please have a look at http://www.geocities.ws/SiliconValley/Station/4283/

Actually, on a side note - Geocities.ws is where Geocities was sold to and is still an active webhost. I use them for my future vintage PC resource site, and to host the downloads for my NeoCities site as they allow hotlinking. It's basically unlimited space for free on a free account with FTP access so might not be a bad site for people wanting to make a retro site. It's also reachable with a vintage PC web browser the last time I checked.

I see, thanks a lot for the information! 🙂👍
It's great that some parts of Geocities survived, I think.
It had such a huge cultural impact to teenagers and hobbyists at the time.
People who had no own PC, but visited an internet café or a library could create their own personal site within a few minutes.
I suppose that really lowered the initial hurdle to many.
All it needed was a browser, some creativity and some content. Pictures, sounds, ZIP files.. 😁

Shoot, I was surprised to find out my old band Lithium's page survived the changeover there. - http://www.geocities.ws/lithiumempyre - me, our rhythm guitarist Hawk and his ex-fiancee made that page on O.G. Geocities in 2001. It seems very ad driven though (got an ad for TikTok on my phone accessing that so probably better off hit with Firefox with adblock and noscript).

The original premise moved to NeoCities - which is where my main site is. Only thing is they don't have FTP, and their version of "SiteBuilder" would be their on-page HTML editor - so you have to learn HTML. That said, W3schools seems to be good for that these days. I'm at the point I don't need a WYSIWYG anymore to make pages. Even write some pages on my vintage PC's using DOS edit.

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Reply 181 of 199, by Jo22

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creepingnet wrote on 2022-07-13, 19:31:
Jo22 wrote on 2022-07-13, 01:25:
I see, thanks a lot for the information! 🙂👍 It's great that some parts of Geocities survived, I think. It had such a huge cultu […]
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creepingnet wrote on 2022-07-12, 19:38:

Actually, on a side note - Geocities.ws is where Geocities was sold to and is still an active webhost. I use them for my future vintage PC resource site, and to host the downloads for my NeoCities site as they allow hotlinking. It's basically unlimited space for free on a free account with FTP access so might not be a bad site for people wanting to make a retro site. It's also reachable with a vintage PC web browser the last time I checked.

I see, thanks a lot for the information! 🙂👍
It's great that some parts of Geocities survived, I think.
It had such a huge cultural impact to teenagers and hobbyists at the time.
People who had no own PC, but visited an internet café or a library could create their own personal site within a few minutes.
I suppose that really lowered the initial hurdle to many.
All it needed was a browser, some creativity and some content. Pictures, sounds, ZIP files.. 😁

Shoot, I was surprised to find out my old band Lithium's page survived the changeover there. - http://www.geocities.ws/lithiumempyre - me, our rhythm guitarist Hawk and his ex-fiancee made that page on O.G. Geocities in 2001. It seems very ad driven though (got an ad for TikTok on my phone accessing that so probably better off hit with Firefox with adblock and noscript).

The original premise moved to NeoCities - which is where my main site is. Only thing is they don't have FTP, and their version of "SiteBuilder" would be their on-page HTML editor - so you have to learn HTML. That said, W3schools seems to be good for that these days. I'm at the point I don't need a WYSIWYG anymore to make pages. Even write some pages on my vintage PC's using DOS edit.

That's really cool, thanks for sharing! 😃👍
The website looks fine on Firefox mobile with adblocking enabled.

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Reply 182 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update. Just found something. It's not an emulator, but a game engine for Win32s/Windows 3.1: WinGDoom.
https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2011/03/29 … ws-3-1-on-qemu/

- Please note that the article is about 10 years old already.
The link still works, however. Have fun. 😀

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Reply 183 of 199, by MarkP

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creepingnet wrote on 2022-07-13, 19:31:
Jo22 wrote on 2022-07-13, 01:25:
I see, thanks a lot for the information! 🙂👍 It's great that some parts of Geocities survived, I think. It had such a huge cultu […]
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creepingnet wrote on 2022-07-12, 19:38:

Actually, on a side note - Geocities.ws is where Geocities was sold to and is still an active webhost. I use them for my future vintage PC resource site, and to host the downloads for my NeoCities site as they allow hotlinking. It's basically unlimited space for free on a free account with FTP access so might not be a bad site for people wanting to make a retro site. It's also reachable with a vintage PC web browser the last time I checked.

I see, thanks a lot for the information! 🙂👍
It's great that some parts of Geocities survived, I think.
It had such a huge cultural impact to teenagers and hobbyists at the time.
People who had no own PC, but visited an internet café or a library could create their own personal site within a few minutes.
I suppose that really lowered the initial hurdle to many.
All it needed was a browser, some creativity and some content. Pictures, sounds, ZIP files.. 😁

Shoot, I was surprised to find out my old band Lithium's page survived the changeover there. - http://www.geocities.ws/lithiumempyre - me, our rhythm guitarist Hawk and his ex-fiancee made that page on O.G. Geocities in 2001. It seems very ad driven though (got an ad for TikTok on my phone accessing that so probably better off hit with Firefox with adblock and noscript).

The original premise moved to NeoCities - which is where my main site is. Only thing is they don't have FTP, and their version of "SiteBuilder" would be their on-page HTML editor - so you have to learn HTML. That said, W3schools seems to be good for that these days. I'm at the point I don't need a WYSIWYG anymore to make pages. Even write some pages on my vintage PC's using DOS edit.

There is still a lot of old stuff hidden out there in WWWLand waiting to be found. A newer page referred me back to the Uncreative Labs Total Hardware 99 page in splendered green text to my surprise yesterday.

Reply 184 of 199, by Jo22

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MarkP wrote on 2022-07-14, 04:53:

There is still a lot of old stuff hidden out there in WWWLand waiting to be found. A newer page referred me back to the Uncreative Labs Total Hardware 99 page in splendered green text to my surprise yesterday.

Thank you for the tip!! I'll keep looking for it. 😁👍

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Reply 185 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update. Found a vintage software development kit (SDK) for MCS-51 micro controllers.
It needs Windows 3.1, 8 MB RAM, VGA and a 486 processor. Freeware, it seems.

Description
http://intel-vintage-developer.eu5.org/DESIGN … LDR/APFILES.HTM

The files are available at this archive:
http://eia.udg.edu/computadors/fitxers/

More related tools here:
http://bit.kuas.edu.tw/~8051/

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Reply 186 of 199, by lolo799

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Jo22 wrote on 2022-07-14, 04:35:
Quick update. Just found something. It's not an emulator, but a game engine for Win32s/Windows 3.1: WinGDoom. https://virtuallyf […]
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Quick update. Just found something. It's not an emulator, but a game engine for Win32s/Windows 3.1: WinGDoom.
https://virtuallyfun.com/wordpress/2011/03/29 … ws-3-1-on-qemu/

- Please note that the article is about 10 years old already.
The link still works, however. Have fun. 😀

Discovering WinDoom in 2022, that's something!
There's a later version from June 1995, it seems I was the only one having a copy of it.

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Reply 188 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update.
Found another version of the BBC emulator (it's v0.4rs).
This version needs WinG, Win32s and a colour depth above 256c.
Otherwise, the output stayed black.
Anyhow, I don't know if it's really worth mentioning.
I'm not even sure it was ported by same person..

Edit: Correction. It's v0.4rs, not v1.4.
The 1 was part of a tilde that Windows has created for 8.3 names/paths.

Edit: Added another picture and the archive with source code, too.
There's a sample binary of the emulator itself, but no roms included.

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Reply 189 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Found another list of old emulators at Lunar-Net.
The list/site itself seems to be of vintage times.
http://www.lunar-net.com/history/vgworld/emulation.html

Lunar-Net has the most funny 404 site I've ever seen so far, btw! I laughed so hard. 😂

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Reply 190 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Found another site, Ira Goldklang's Emulator Page . It was last updated in 2001.
The link below is a mirror.

http://cpmarchives.classiccmp.org/trs80/mirro … com/emulate.htm

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Reply 191 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Found an old version of Nofrendo, a NES emulator.
It can be downloaded from Wayback Machine.
The sources do have a Win32 folder, among other platform folders, but I haven't seen DirectX beeing mentioned so far.
Maybe there's a chance porting it to Win32s?

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Reply 192 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Found some more historical emulators for Windows 9x/DOS at http://www.neshq.com/emulation/.
Some are still from the 90s, even! :)

Edit: I'm going to test them for Win32s compatibility, too.

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Reply 194 of 199, by Jo22

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gerry wrote on 2022-08-02, 09:04:

some of these sites give a nostalgic sense of the early days of emulation :)

I know, right? Browsing those old sites is a bit like time travel! :D
On the other hand, it also causes confusion sometimes.
A few years ago, such simple HTML pages were still being created by beginners.
It's really hard to understand how on earth we ended up with this world wide web of today.

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Reply 195 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update.

Found a late 90s site of a CHIP-8 emulator for DOS.

https://web.archive.org/web/19981207011831/ht … chip8/index.htm

At some point, SChip/Win - the Windows 3.1/95 SChip runner was planned, but never finished. 🙁

Edit: I forgot to mention.. I try my best not only to collect old Windows 3.x compatible emulators,
but also try to gather some information about the atmosphere that existed.

To give a bit of an impression of what the environment of emulator writers used to be.
What development tools they did use, why they wanted to write an emulator etc.

That's why I also like to include a bit of the "useless stuff" that I may find on this journey. Hope you guys/gals don't mind. 😀

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Reply 196 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update. Found the vintage COSMAC ELF Simulator for Windows 3.1! ^^
It's "Compatible with Windows 3.1, 95, and NT, as well as WABI (Sun), WINE (X-windows), SoftWindows (Mac), and other Windows emulators."
Now, isn't that something ? And yes, it really works! It also can run and save programs entered manually. It's an unknown little gem, I think.

The COSMAC ELF was an very early homebrew/development kit thingy from the 1970s.
It was based around the "COSMAC" CDP1802 CPU (early: CDP1801 2-chip CPU) and the Pixie video chip.
It's a platform the CHIP-8 interpreter would later find its home in.
The CDP1802 itself later became known as a dependable processor for satellites and space probes.

More information:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COSMAC_ELF
http://www.cosmacelf.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXX7FeYH1N8

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Reply 197 of 199, by Jo22

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Quick update. I went through a few dozen of early Win95/32 emulators from Japan that I found, but none of them really worked.
Here's one of the few applications that ran on Windows 3.1+Win32s. Hope it works.

It's not an emulator sadly, but a CPU usage monitor. With an unique trait.:
An anime/manga style processor meter! ^^ - It can also display numbers and bar graphs.

Sure, it's not on-topic, strictly speaking - unless we consider it an utility for software developers (emulators are them, too).
Anyway, I just thought you guys and gals would find it entertaining! Have fun! ^_^

PS: The fan art wallpaper is showing Bonnie (Bokko) from The Amazing 3 (Wonder 3), a 1960s animation. It thought it fit the topic.
Source: https://kemono.party/patreon/user/476842/post/46232915

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Reply 199 of 199, by Jo22

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Kahenraz wrote on 2022-09-05, 20:35:

That's really cute. The background is a perfect match as well for the screenshot.

Thank you very much! ^^

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