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This is the computer I would have liked to have had back in 1993/94
Building the Ultimate 486 computer ( NOT 5x86 ).
This may NOT be entirely period correct but this is what I would have liked back in 1993/94
The 2x CDROM drives where to slow for Multimedia CDROM play back of videos. They would seek allot.
And it is NOT easy finding a good AT case today.
I remember taking classes back in computer education school and realizing that the computers where too slow for
Some of the software they were using. So this is the computer I would have liked to have had back in 1993/94 when I was taking
Computer education classes.

This build probably would have cost over $5,000 back in 1994

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Specs with 1994 estimated costs:

Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-486vs ( VLB ) ( $150 )
http://www.motherboards.org/files/manua ... 86vs8a.pdf
Motherboard - Vega vs486f VLB ( Young Micro Systems inc. ) ( $150 ).
http://www.elhvb.com/webhq/models/486vlb3/vs486f.html
CPU - Intel 486dx4-100 Overdrive ( $300 )
Cache - 256kb, -20ns
RAM - 16mb. ( -60 ns , FPM ) ( $1600 )
Hard-drive - WD 540mb. ( IDE ) ( $500 )
Video - Cirrus logic 5428 ( 2mb , VLB ) ( $200 )
Video. - Stealth diamond from 1993 (1mb , VLB ) ( $200 )
Audio - Sound Blaster Pro 2.0 ( ISA ) ( $300 )
Network - 3com 3c509 combo ( ISA ) ( $70 )
Controller - VLB ( 2 channels ) ( $60 )
CDROM - 4x ( IDE ). ( $ 50 )
Floppy drives - 1.44mb. floppy and 5.25 1.2mb floppy drive. ( $100 )
Modem - US Robotics 33.600 external modem. ( $150 )
SCSI - Adaptec AHA-1542CF ( ISA ) ( $100 )
Power supply - 300watt ( $60 )
Case - AT ( $75 )

OS - DOS 6.22 / Win3.11 ( $150 )

Estimated Total = $5,465
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I found this computer case on eBay.
It’s from a computer builder back in the 1990’s called “Techmedia”
It’s a nice design AT case. Could have been for a SS7 or Pentium 1st gen computer.
I don’t know. But it should work nicely for this 486 build.
I like it because it has lots of room inside and it has a bay door cover to give it a clean simple look when closed.

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Reply 1 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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Reply 4 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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mpe wrote on 2020-01-09, 00:27:

More a 1994 thing given by the DX4 and 5429.

In 1993 we were dreaming about DX2-66 and Pentium 60/66.

Okay, Let me change the title.

Thanks.

I will do a 1993 dream build later.

Reply 6 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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Caluser2000 wrote on 2020-01-09, 05:22:

What is the point of the scsi controller? The vbl multi i/o card covers most things such as hdd, fdd. lpt. com etc.

It's a Multimedia build, So I thought I throw it in for such things like SCSI scanners, CDROMS, External hard-drives, etc.

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Some Advent speakers with subwoofer.
Some of the first PC speaker manufactures to provide a subwoofer.
They sound good too.

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Reply 8 of 36, by appiah4

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I had almost this exact PC in 1995, in a nearly identical tower case with a front flap door, with the following exceptions:

No SCSI setup
8MB RAM (32MB in 1994? I don't even remember reading about 32MB in a computer back then)
14.4Kbps modem

I thought I had an AMAZING PC.

Then Quake released the next year. *facepalm*

A500:Rev6|+512K|ACA500+|C1084S
i386:Am386SX25|4M|GD5402|ES688
i486:U5S33|8M|GD5428|YMF719
i586:P133|32M|T64V+/MX2|V1|CT3980/32M
i686:K6-2/500|256M|i740|V2/SLI|CT4520/32M
S370:P3-1200|384M|GF4-4200|MX300
S754:A3700+|2G|X800XTPE|SB0350

Reply 10 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-01-09, 10:21:
I had almost this exact PC in 1995, in a nearly identical tower case with a front flap door, with the following exceptions: […]
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I had almost this exact PC in 1995, in a nearly identical tower case with a front flap door, with the following exceptions:

No SCSI setup
8MB RAM (32MB in 1994? I don't even remember reading about 32MB in a computer back then)
14.4Kbps modem

I thought I had an AMAZING PC.

Then Quake released the next year. *facepalm*

Yes, My first 486 custom build in 1993 was the following

Specs:
ISA motherboard
Intel 486dx-33
64kb cache
120mb harddrive
4mb ram
2x Sony CDROM
IDE controller
1.44 and 5.25 floppy drive
Sound Blaster 16

I later upgraded it to a VLB motherboard with intel 486dx2-50 and 8mb ram and 4x CDROM.

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This posts is for DREAM build that I wish I could have had back in 1993/94.
The components are NOT entirely period correct.

Reply 11 of 36, by appiah4

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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2020-01-09, 10:37:
Yes, My first 486 custom build in 1993 was the following […]
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Yes, My first 486 custom build in 1993 was the following

Specs:
ISA motherboard
Intel 486dx-33
64kb cache
120mb harddrive
4mb ram
2x Sony CDROM
IDE controller
1.44 and 5.25 floppy drive
Sound Blaster 16

I later upgraded it to a VLB motherboard with intel 486dx2-50 and 8mb ram and 4x CDROM.

Interesting. In 1993 I bought a 486DX-33 as well, but mine had a 1MB VLB CL-GD542X (not entirely sure which), 213MB HDD, 4MB RAM, no CD-ROM, 1 3.5" Floppy and a SB Pro 2.0. It seems you paid up for the multimedia stuff whereas I paid up for the Hard Drive capacity and graphics card.

A500:Rev6|+512K|ACA500+|C1084S
i386:Am386SX25|4M|GD5402|ES688
i486:U5S33|8M|GD5428|YMF719
i586:P133|32M|T64V+/MX2|V1|CT3980/32M
i686:K6-2/500|256M|i740|V2/SLI|CT4520/32M
S370:P3-1200|384M|GF4-4200|MX300
S754:A3700+|2G|X800XTPE|SB0350

Reply 12 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-01-09, 11:29:
Intel486dx33 wrote on 2020-01-09, 10:37:
Yes, My first 486 custom build in 1993 was the following […]
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Yes, My first 486 custom build in 1993 was the following

Specs:
ISA motherboard
Intel 486dx-33
64kb cache
120mb harddrive
4mb ram
2x Sony CDROM
IDE controller
1.44 and 5.25 floppy drive
Sound Blaster 16

I later upgraded it to a VLB motherboard with intel 486dx2-50 and 8mb ram and 4x CDROM.

Interesting. In 1993 I bought a 486DX-33 as well, but mine had a 1MB VLB CL-GD542X (not entirely sure which), 213MB HDD, 4MB RAM, no CD-ROM, 1 3.5" Floppy and a SB Pro 2.0. It seems you paid up for the multimedia stuff whereas I paid up for the Hard Drive capacity and graphics card.

Yes, back in 1993
1mb ram = $100
1mb hard drive space = $1

How much was that SB Pro 2.0 back in 1993 ?

My Sony 2x CDROM was about $150

I wanted a Multimedia computer with CDROM and High end graphics and Sound card.
But I really did not know what I I was doing back then as computers were new to me and our schools was just starting to offer classes. So with the help of a friend who also was not to bright on computers we picked out the parts as best we knew.
We thought we were building a good computer but appearently not good enough.
So this post is about what I wanted back in 1993/94 as my first 486 computer.
32mb of ram might be over kill for DOS / Win3.11 but NOT for WinNT 3.51 and Win95.
So this is a Dream build and not a basic best value build.

Reply 13 of 36, by appiah4

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I may be wrong but I think the SB Pro was slightly below $150 and the SB16 was almost double that.

A500:Rev6|+512K|ACA500+|C1084S
i386:Am386SX25|4M|GD5402|ES688
i486:U5S33|8M|GD5428|YMF719
i586:P133|32M|T64V+/MX2|V1|CT3980/32M
i686:K6-2/500|256M|i740|V2/SLI|CT4520/32M
S370:P3-1200|384M|GF4-4200|MX300
S754:A3700+|2G|X800XTPE|SB0350

Reply 14 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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Conner 240mb Hard drive from 1993
Intel 486dx4-100 CPU with fan/heatsink
4x CDROM drive.

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Reply 15 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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Reply 16 of 36, by mpe

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appiah4 wrote on 2020-01-09, 12:19:

I may be wrong but I think the SB Pro was slightly below $150 and the SB16 was almost double that.

This was in July 1993

Imagine getting BNIB Ad Lib Gold let alone SB Pro MCA for that amount of money today!

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My retrobuilds:
486DX-50 EISA|NexGen Nx586

Reply 17 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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The Computer case just arrived today. Wow !...This is the best AT case I ever had !...
It is made of thick steel construction like my HP Kayak computer.
I can wait to start putting this 486 computer together.

This is a great construction case for my Ultimate 486 build.
I am only going to put my best components in it.
It looks NEW and Never used.
It was probably a case for 1st gen. Pentium motherboard but will work good for a 486 motherboard too.

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Reply 19 of 36, by Intel486dx33

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Here is what I have so far.
I am still looking for a good motherboard for this build as I want a really good one as this is a “Dream” build
And I want a good reliable 486dx4-100 motherboard.

I added all the drives and everything fits fine. It’s going to be a really nice build.
This will probably be the last 486 computer I build so I want to to be a good one.

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