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Reply 1900 of 2098, by appiah4

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MadYoshi wrote on 2021-04-15, 18:51:

I am always open to suggestions with what I could replace the SB PCI128.

Basically anything.

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Reply 1901 of 2098, by pc-sound-legacy

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MadYoshi wrote on 2021-04-15, 18:51:
devius wrote on 2021-04-12, 18:00:
kolderman wrote on 2021-04-11, 22:51:

Nice but

> Creative Sound Blaster PCI128

Exactly 😆 Everything is super over the top, except the sound card. What's the story behind that?

I'm more of a fan of the Pentium III platform than of sound cards. I know the Sound Blaster PCI128 isn't the best, but I just had it there. If the board had sound on board, I would even have left it at that.

I am always open to suggestions with what I could replace the SB PCI128.

As DOS 🎮 seems to be no issue for you, I would reccomend Areal Vortex based card (Terratec XLerate a.E) or Soundblasters Live! If you prefere EAX.

Reply 1902 of 2098, by Doornkaat

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The original Vortex really isn't that great. SBlive! also does A3D as well plus EAX in hardware.
Only Vortex2 cards are capable of A3D 2.0, so I'd recommend to only get a Vortex2 card if you want an Aureal chip.

Reply 1903 of 2098, by zapbuzz

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Well, I have dual p3 @1ghz coppermine system with up to 4x agp (sideband) i gots a radeon sapphire HDMI X1600 DOESN'T hdmi do audio? I will assume best under 2k or xp if it does with this genre *anyhow* I'll post a pic when finished

Reply 1904 of 2098, by gex85

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MadYoshi wrote on 2021-04-11, 21:59:
- 2x Pentium III-S Tualatin 1,40 GHz, 133 MHz FSB, 512 KB Cache, inkl. Adapter aus Südkorea - 2x Cooler Master HHC-L61 mit Lüfte […]
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- 2x Pentium III-S Tualatin 1,40 GHz, 133 MHz FSB, 512 KB Cache, inkl. Adapter aus Südkorea
- 2x Cooler Master HHC-L61 mit Lüfter 60x60x25 ~3000 RPM
- ASUS CUV266-DLS Rev. 1.03 mit Bios Rev.001 inkl. Tualatin Microcode
- 2048 MB, 4x NANYA 512 MB, DDR-400MHz-CL3 @ DDR-266MHz-CL2
- ASUS ATI Radeon X850XT PE AGP
- SCSI HDD, Fujitsu Enterprise MAT3073NP, Ultra320 @ Ultra160, 68 PIN
- SCSI ODD, NEC CD-3010A, 50 PIN Adapter auf 68 PIN
- FDD, MITSUMI D353
- Creative Sound Blaster PCI128 CT4810, PCI Karte
- USB2.0 VIA VT6212L, PCI Karte
- Ethernet Intel 82559 10/100 MBit, onBoard
- SCSI Controller Adaptec 7899 Ultra 160 36-bit, onBoard
- MAXDATA Favorit 1000I Case

Very nice build! I have one of those Maxdata cases, too. My Socket A build currently lives in there. But it's not modded in any way.

Regarding the sound card: Since you are probably running Win2k or XP (for dual CPU support), a Vortex 2 would not get you very far. Driver support is basically limited to Win9x. And they are relatively hard to find and expensive here in Germany.
Audigy 2 ZS on the other hand is very cheap (eBay Classifieds is full of listings for this card in the 5-15€ range), very compatible and would be a huge step forward from your PCI128.

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Reply 1905 of 2098, by vad4r

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CPU: AMD-K7 800Mhz
Mainboard: Asus K7M-RM
RAM: 3x 128MB Infinion 133Mhz, CL3
GPU: ATI Rage Fury Maxx
NIC: 3com 3C905CX-TX-M
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Live! CT4830
FDD: 3,5" Disk
HDD: Maxtor Fireball 3 2F040L0 40GB IDE
ODD: AOpen DVD1648/APP pro
PSU: Seasonic SFX 300W 80+
Case: Micro ATX Case from Lite-On
OS: Windows 98 SE with Servicepack 2.1D

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vae victis!

Reply 1907 of 2098, by gerry

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vad4r wrote on 2021-04-29, 06:56:
CPU: AMD-K7 800Mhz Mainboard: Asus K7M-RM RAM: 3x 128MB Infinion 133Mhz, CL3 GPU: ATI Rage Fury Maxx NIC: 3com 3C905CX-TX-M Soun […]
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CPU: AMD-K7 800Mhz
Mainboard: Asus K7M-RM
RAM: 3x 128MB Infinion 133Mhz, CL3
GPU: ATI Rage Fury Maxx
NIC: 3com 3C905CX-TX-M
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Live! CT4830
FDD: 3,5" Disk
HDD: Maxtor Fireball 3 2F040L0 40GB IDE
ODD: AOpen DVD1648/APP pro
PSU: Seasonic SFX 300W 80+
Case: Micro ATX Case from Lite-On
OS: Windows 98 SE with Servicepack 2.1D
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that all looks like new old stock! very clean machine

Reply 1909 of 2098, by gex85

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vad4r wrote on 2021-04-29, 06:56:
CPU: AMD-K7 800Mhz Mainboard: Asus K7M-RM RAM: 3x 128MB Infinion 133Mhz, CL3 GPU: ATI Rage Fury Maxx NIC: 3com 3C905CX-TX-M Soun […]
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CPU: AMD-K7 800Mhz
Mainboard: Asus K7M-RM
RAM: 3x 128MB Infinion 133Mhz, CL3
GPU: ATI Rage Fury Maxx
NIC: 3com 3C905CX-TX-M
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster Live! CT4830
FDD: 3,5" Disk
HDD: Maxtor Fireball 3 2F040L0 40GB IDE
ODD: AOpen DVD1648/APP pro
PSU: Seasonic SFX 300W 80+
Case: Micro ATX Case from Lite-On
OS: Windows 98 SE with Servicepack 2.1D

Wow, now that is a clean looking machine! Great! I like to put some effort into cable management myself, but you have done an incredible job, none of my builds has ever looked so clean (at least none of those in old cases without modern cable management features) - hats off!
I am planning to pair one of my Slot A boards with my Rage Fury Maxx, too. It's an appealing combination somehow.

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Reply 1912 of 2098, by vad4r

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thx Guys 😀
The permance is good, the power from the Fury Maxx is the 32bit color:

3Dmark99 800x600
Single GPU 16Bit:3444
Dual GPU 16Bit: 4473
Dual GPU 32Bit: 4317

3Dmark2000 800x600:
Dual GPU 16Bit: 3182
Dual GPU 32Bit: 2949

Next system:
Case: Highscreen Kompakt II Desktop
Mainboard & CPU: Octek Jaguar V Rev. 2.0 with AMD386DX40 and Ulsi Advanced Math Coprocessor
RAM:: 8MB
I/O Controller: Goldstar Prime 2
GPU: Trident TVGA9000b with 512KB RAM
Sound: Soundblaster 16 CT2230 with IDE Connector for
ODD: Mitsumi LU005S CD-ROM
HDD: NoName Slotadapter with 512MB CF Card
FDD: 5,25" and 3,5"

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todo: CD-ROM without function, original Mitsumi I/O Card without function too. Look for another drive.

vae victis!

Reply 1913 of 2098, by chrismeyer6

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Those scores are good nice job on that system I bet that thing is fun to play with. I love that little system you got and I also love that style CD ROM drive it reminds me of being a kid my uncle had a high end 486 system with that drive. Good times. He still has that system and I'm hoping one day he'll finally let me take it.

Reply 1914 of 2098, by bofh.fromhell

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vad4r wrote on 2021-04-29, 06:56:

AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (8).jpg AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (1).jpg AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (2).jpg AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (12).jpg

That's a very nice cable management.
Care to share how stuff is routed?
My intention is obviously to steal your ideas! 😉

Reply 1915 of 2098, by ODwilly

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Do you have the proprietary mitsumi ide cable to go with the drive? You could try adding a SB16 or some sound card that has the mitsumi interface and see if the controller card is the issue potentially

Main pc: Asus ROG laptop. I7-6700HQ, GTX 960M 4gb, 16gb DDR4.
Retro PC: Soyo P4S Dragon, 3gb ddr 266, 120gb Maxtor, Geforce Fx 5950 Ultra, SB Live! 5.1

Reply 1916 of 2098, by vad4r

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bofh.fromhell wrote on 2021-04-29, 20:30:
That's a very nice cable management. Care to share how stuff is routed? My intention is obviously to steal your ideas! ;) […]
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vad4r wrote on 2021-04-29, 06:56:

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That's a very nice cable management.
Care to share how stuff is routed?
My intention is obviously to steal your ideas! 😉

Do you know the word "copyright"? xD
I think this picture will explain a lot:

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The FDD cable goes between the IDE cables over and behind the HDD and comes to the connector between HDD and FDD. The best way to make a better cable managment: take old cables and practice to fold them. Example to turn around the pins:

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(sry for my bad english, I hope you have an idea what I mean)

ODwilly wrote on 2021-04-29, 20:37:

Do you have the proprietary mitsumi ide cable to go with the drive? You could try adding a SB16 or some sound card that has the mitsumi interface and see if the controller card is the issue potentially

This is the first time I hear from a special cable. I use a normal IDE 40 pin cable and have no function with the Mitsumi I/O card or over a SB16. Du you have the pin plan?

vae victis!

Reply 1917 of 2098, by pan069

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vad4r wrote on 2021-04-30, 06:43:
Do you know the word "copyright"? xD I think this picture will explain a lot: AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (14).jpg […]
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bofh.fromhell wrote on 2021-04-29, 20:30:
That's a very nice cable management. Care to share how stuff is routed? My intention is obviously to steal your ideas! ;) […]
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vad4r wrote on 2021-04-29, 06:56:

AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (8).jpg AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (1).jpg AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (2).jpg AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (12).jpg

That's a very nice cable management.
Care to share how stuff is routed?
My intention is obviously to steal your ideas! 😉

Do you know the word "copyright"? xD
I think this picture will explain a lot:
AMD K7 Rage Fury Maxx (14).jpg

The FDD cable goes between the IDE cables over and behind the HDD and comes to the connector between HDD and FDD. The best way to make a better cable managment: take old cables and practice to fold them. Example to turn around the pins:
Falten1.jpg Falten2.jpg
(sry for my bad english, I hope you have an idea what I mean)

ODwilly wrote on 2021-04-29, 20:37:

Do you have the proprietary mitsumi ide cable to go with the drive? You could try adding a SB16 or some sound card that has the mitsumi interface and see if the controller card is the issue potentially

This is the first time I hear from a special cable. I use a normal IDE 40 pin cable and have no function with the Mitsumi I/O card or over a SB16. Du you have the pin plan?

Neat. I guess the kind of cables you use are the ones that stay in shape instead of the ones from the early 90's?

Do you use some sort of clips on the bends? I just folled the one in your example to switch the red over to the other side but to keep the fault in place I definitely need some sort of clip...

Reply 1918 of 2098, by vad4r

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You can bend the 80-wire cable better than the 40-wire cable. Nothing is needed for this to stay in place.
The 40-wire cable sometimes needs a dot of hot glue. If you disassemble it, the glue is easier to remove.

Next system:
This is a very cheap PC. I buy it some year before für 5€. I make only a function test and put him to my attic. The cablechaos triggerd my a lot and some days ago I make a cleanup - without test the system before - and the mainboard was gone (damaged capacitor). I assembled another MSI Board, from S939 to S462 - it's nothing exciting, but I had something to tinker with.

Mainboard: MSI KT6V with VIA KT600​ chipset
CPU: AMD Barton 3200+
GPU: ATI Radeon 9600pro
RAM: Corsair DDR1 (forgot the specs)
Xilence Performance C Serie 80mm fans​ (very expensive, 3 pieces für 5,91€ including shipping ^^ )
Only onboardsound, no soundcard (I search one with red PCB (ideas?))

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vae victis!

Reply 1919 of 2098, by appiah4

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Ok, now I dare you to do a 386/486 AT build with an ISA/VLB IO controller, let's see if you can pull that off in a way that will make me feel ashamed..

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