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First post, by kainiakaria

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August 24 of this year, I went to the thrift store and just bought for 10 us dollars an HP Pavilion 7410P. I am planing to throw a a 3Dfx Voodoo 1 in it. I currently have a ATI 3D Rage Pro coming in the mail.

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Estimated Price Range: $899 to $3,550 US Dollars

Basic Specs
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Chipset: Intel i430HX Chipset

Motherboard: Intel Ruby RU430HX [Proprietary Computer Case Specific Socket 7 Motherboard]

CPU Type: Has either Intel Pentium Classic [The A80502120, A80502133, A80502150, A80502166 and A80502200 were used on this series of PC. These systems seem to have mostly come originally with Pentium Classic and later offered with Pentium MMX versions.] or Intel Pentium with MMX Technology

Max Memory (Able to Take): 128 MB (4 sticks of 32 MB) EDO SIMM NON Parity but I think that they might be able to pull off 512 MB

Max Hard Disk Drive Capacity Support: 8 GB

AGP Slot: None

Max Amount of PCI Slots: 2

Max Amount of ISA Slots: 5

Hard Drive Type: Quantum Bigfoot

Onboard Graphics: S3 Trio 64/­32 or S3 Virge Chipset with 2 MB of VRAM [In terms of higher end models I would recommend either the NVIDIA RIVA 128 PCI or the ATI 3D Rage Pro PCI if the 3Dfx Voodoo 1 cannot be obtained and even if you do get a 3Dfx Voodoo 1 then I still recommend either of these]

Onboard Sound: Crystal Sound Chip of Some Kind or Yamaha OPL3-SA [These support Sound Blaster Pro 2.0]

Modem Card: Pavilion PC Lucent Modem

Ethernet LAN Card: None [You will have to add one in. I recommend an LAN card that uses the ISA Bus]

Operating Systems: Windows 3.1, Windows for Workgroups 3.11, Windows 95 OSR1 or Windows 95 OSR2.1
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HP Pavilion 7420

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

166MHz 32 MB 16x 2.5 GB

HP Pavilion 7410P

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

200MHz 24 MB 16x 2.1 GB PhotoDrive

HP Pavilion 7370V

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

200MHz 32 MB 16x 4.0 GB 3Dfx Voodoo 1

[Notes: The Pavilion 7420, 7370V, 7360, 7350P, 7330Z, 7320 and 7125 were the systems as far as I can tell that came with the Pentium MMX. The 3Dfx Voodoo 1 cards that were included with these systems were made by Orchid and the name that Orchid gave their Voodoo 1 cards was the Orchid Righteous 3D]

HP Pavilion 7360

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

200MHz 32 MB 16x 3.8 GB

HP Pavilion 7350P

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

166MHz 32 MB 16x 2.5 GB PhotoDrive

HP Pavilion 7330Z

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

166MHz 32 MB 16x 2.5 GB Zip Drive

HP Pavilion 7320

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

166MHz 16 MB 16x 2.1 GB

[Notes: This computer not just came with Pentium MMX but earlier models had the Pentium Classic. The Pavilion 7320 as well as the 7420 also came with a 200 Mhz clocked Pentium MMX.]

HP Pavilion 7295V

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

200 MHz 32 MB 8x 3.8 GB 3Dfx Voodoo 1

HP Pavilion 7285

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

200 MHz 32 MB 8x 3.1 GB

HP Pavilion 7280P

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

166 MHz 16 MB 8x 2.5 GB PhotoDrive

HP Pavilion 7275Z

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

166 MHz 32 MB 8x 2.5 GB Zip Drive

HP Pavilion 7270

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

166 MHz 16 MB 8x 2.5 GB

HP Pavilion 7170

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

166 MHz 16 MB 6x 2.0 GB

HP Pavilion 7145

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

150 MHz 16 MB 6x 1.62 GB

HP Pavilion 7130P

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

133 MHz 16 MB 6x 1.62 GB PhotoDrive

HP Pavilion 7125

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

133 MHz 16 MB 6x 1.62 GB

HP Pavilion 7110Z

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

120 MHz 16 MB 6x 1.26 GB Zip Drive

HP Pavilion 7055

CPU Speed RAM CD Speed Hard Drive Special Feature

120 MHz 16 MB 4x 1.62 GB

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Reply 1 of 6, by DankEngihn

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Nice looking machine. I had one similar (Pavilion 7130p), and it was the world's biggest piece of shit. The stupid PCI/ISA riser would come loose all the time and freeze the computer or make it restart randomly. I eventually got so pissed off at it, that I pulled the useful stuff from it, and took a sledgehammer to the remains of it.

I hated everything about that thing.

Reply 2 of 6, by Caluser2000

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Don't know why ISA nic is recommended. PCI nics should play nicely with it. First thing I'd do is dump the modem.

There's a glitch in the matrix.

Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.

Reply 4 of 6, by chinny22

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looks like's a fine Dos gaming PC, The Voodoo1 matches it nicely.
If you were short on PCI slots I wouldn't worry about upgrading the graphics. The on board S3 is really good for pure dos with great compatibility if you check the table in the link below.
https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/

I'm guessing the ISA nic is recommended due to the fact both PCI slots are full, In which case I'd agree. otherwise it doesn't really make much difference if using PC or ISA, I'd always recommend using existing stock or what can be had cheap.

Personally I'd go with Win95 OSR2.1 but skip installing IE4 (either by removing the CD after setup completes or not copying the cab files across if installing from the HDD.)
You get Fat32, and Win95 is a nicer OS for system management and networking and slightly better memory management then dos 6.22
http://www.mdgx.com/mem7.htm

But if after full nostalgia experience dos 6.22 and WFW 3.11 can still be made to talk to modern OS's

Reply 5 of 6, by FFXIhealer

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This is extremely similar to the Micronics build I did. I also set it up similarly.

Intel Pentium P54c 200MHz
64MB (16MBx4) EDO SIMM memory
Micronics M55HI+ (Socket 7)
ATI Rage IIc PCI graphics card (motherboard has no integrated graphics)
Diamond Monster 3D 4MB PCI Voodoo1 card
SMC 10/100 Ethernet PCI network card
Motherboard has built-in Creative Labs Vibra16 ISA-bus sound chip
Windows 95 OSR2

If my MB had a built-in S3 graphics chip, I would have completely skipped wasting a PCI slot on the ATI Rage card and just used that. It's supposed to have great DOS gaming performance, as the above poster said. I really don't have any ISA cards worth a damn, so it is what it is. I'd have used a slot for a sound card had one not been included on the motherboard.

It's a good little "Early Win95/MS-DOS" gaming system. I plan to use it on my Twitch channel to run retro PC games. Between it and my Win98se gaming rig (with dual Voodoo2s and a TNT2 AGP card), it should be awesome retro gaming for all 11 followers I have. 🤣

In case anyone cares, on Twitch I call myself the "BeardedRetroGuy".

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Reply 6 of 6, by kainiakaria

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chinny22 wrote:
looks like's a fine Dos gaming PC, The Voodoo1 matches it nicely. If you were short on PCI slots I wouldn't worry about upgradin […]
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looks like's a fine Dos gaming PC, The Voodoo1 matches it nicely.
If you were short on PCI slots I wouldn't worry about upgrading the graphics. The on board S3 is really good for pure dos with great compatibility if you check the table in the link below.
https://gona.mactar.hu/DOS_TESTS/

I'm guessing the ISA nic is recommended due to the fact both PCI slots are full, In which case I'd agree. otherwise it doesn't really make much difference if using PC or ISA, I'd always recommend using existing stock or what can be had cheap.

Personally I'd go with Win95 OSR2.1 but skip installing IE4 (either by removing the CD after setup completes or not copying the cab files across if installing from the HDD.)
You get Fat32, and Win95 is a nicer OS for system management and networking and slightly better memory management then dos 6.22
http://www.mdgx.com/mem7.htm

But if after full nostalgia experience dos 6.22 and WFW 3.11 can still be made to talk to modern OS's

I had an Aopen PT75 Plus S3 ViRGE/GX in the machine because I wanted to have 4 MB and plus I needed to see if the card worked.