Reply 100 of 129, by Tetrium
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wrote:wrote:wrote:I have never read anything to suggest that the NTVDM of XP is less of a DOS emulation than the NTVDM of 2K.
Neither have I. Why bring this up?
You seemed to imply that XP was superior in that respect and did not use DOS emulation. Perhaps I misunderstood.
You didn't misunderstand, you're trying to look for an argument 😜
What I typed never implied that I implied that! 😜
wrote:wrote:and as I said, what programs do you know that work in 2k but not in XP?
I did not address this because I was confused as to where exactly I implied there were any such things.
You didn't. I asked you before if you knew programs that work in 2k but not in XP, and you ignored it. I simply asked my own question to you for the second time. Seems I'll need to do it for a 3rd time...
wrote:wrote:All you mentioned is a firewall issue, it didn't work in 2k and worked in XP? But why bother with a 3rd party firewall if XP comes standard with a firewall already?
Either someone forgot to tell that to Norton, Comodo, Zone Labs, Online Armor, and so on, or clearly the XP firewall is something that can be improved upon.
Dude! Those companies want to sell their products and make money! They don't care if you don't even know XP already has a firewall! They only care about your money!
Sorry dude, but if you wander on some website of some software company which offers to sell you their new-and-improved-Windows-7-Super-File-Explorer, does that mean that you think the standard Windows 7 Explorer is no good??
And on top of that, if companies sell a firewall that doesn't work in 2k and isn't even needed in XP, why the heck would you buy it?
wrote:Whatever this difference is, it did not have much effect on my computing needs as I can hardly recall any other occasion when I came across something that would only run under XP and not 2k. You say there are many such programs, which surprises me.
Surprises you? You mentioned yourself STEAM won't work with 2k anymore? And neither will IE7, modern drivers and security updates. If THATS not enough reasons for you, then maybe you should start doing some of your own reading before throwing in arguments about 2k in a topic that's about ME 😜
wrote:wrote:However, since I'm already on XP, what good reasons can you give me to use 2k instead of XP in certain situations?
In other words, what can 2k do that XP can't? And I put it in bold explicitly since you seem to be evading this question the whole time now.Will you please re-read the last paragraph of my previous post!? Heck, take a look at my last post on page 4!
heres your last paragraph of your previous post:
wrote:Let me be clear that I am not particularly arguing in favor of 2k over XP; you are quite welcome to use XP for gaming and I will in no way disparage your choice. I just want to know more about this assertion of yours, as it differs considerably from my experience. If my experience differs substantially from that of others, then it might be interesting to know why.
disparage my choice? Dude, I can choose whatever the hell I want lmao! And btw. you didn't answer my question, you simply threw it back at me!
So Jorpho, what reason would I have to use 2k instead of XP? You never answered my question, you're only evading it.
So far you've mentioned hardly anything in that regard.
And heres your end of page 4:
wrote:I'm actually a little unsure about that myself; I run XP on one of my older machines where I used to run 2K, and it seems to take a much longer amount of time for it to become responsive when I start using an application again after leaving it idle for a few hours. I never really got to the bottom as to why that happens.
Bit premature to be making sweeping statements like that, no? Maybe your XP installation just didn't like the way you "pimped" it.
I sorry, but I'm generally quite skeptical when someone says "I did this thing to my computer and then it worked better"
Do you have a specific, official source for this information?
wrote:wrote:Then you come along and mention 2k is more decent then I give credit for.
Yes, that is
Wait wait wait, you're pulling things out of contect here!
We were having a discussion about ME, then YOU come along and bring 2k in the picture with the "2k is more stable" stuff!
What I then tried to tell you is that if you use ME and XP, theres simply no room for 2k anymore.
I never said 2k is a bad OS, only that there are better alternatives for it 😉
Please let THAT sink in. ME + XP = exit 2k.
wrote:I am not saying it is inherently superior to XP in some way. I want to know why you think 2k is so drastically inferior. And don't tell me about all the added features of XP; I know about those already. Tell me about these mysterious programs that will run under XP but will not run under 2k "without vast investment in time and efford".
I have given you my 'proof' as to why I think 2k isn't worth it, compared to XP.
And the major thrust of your argument is that "everyone else says so" ? And that it "seems" to work better with nLite? (We can deal with that in the other thread.)
Do you have a specific, official quote of mine where I say it "seems" to work better with nLite? Even better, what was I referring to?
And the major thrust being that everyone told me so? Nope, but maybe I'll just need to keep repeating the same thing to you over and over again till you get it, 🤣 😜
I'll do this from the top of my head, without looking for any official well documented and tripple signed sources yay!
XP vs 2k:
If I need to install an OS on a 'new' computer (mind you, this can also be some 10 year old rig I picked off the street) I can either pick 2k or XP, the standard install is all the same, both of them.
However, XP is receiving security updates, 2k isn't
XP seems to be easier to nLite then 2k, thus making XP easier to install then 2k.
Theres an advantage already, even if 2k and XP had the same functionality, I'd pick XP right there already!
XP comes standard with compatibility mode, in 2k I'd need to tweak it, manually
Actually, I'd need to tweak a LOT more in a fresh 2k install then a fresh XP install.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned a couple more, feel free to go look them up yourself 😜
So there you have it Jorpho. If XP and 2k act the same but 1 is harder to install, tweak and use, I'm obviously gonna pick the other as this is a logical choice. And actually, since you haven't been successful at bringing forth an argument what 2k can do better then XP, I'll just suppose that you just don't know any 😜
There, that's it! Now you can either start giving some reasons for choosing 2k over XP, or maybe you should just stop bothering 😜