debs3759 wrote on 2023-10-23, 10:00:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2023-10-23, 09:13:

I made a stupid move a couple of days ago ... I'm on the lookout for a Pentium III 933 slot-1. They are horribly priced on a well-known auction site - like +100US$. Then my saved search found a Dell motherboard (Precision 420) with one 933 Slot-1, memory, C-RIMMs (I think, or the memory banks were full) for US$25 or best offer .. Cheap as I were, I put in an offer, hoping to get it for $20 - but within no time, it was sold at listed price ... Of course ... So stupid of me ... D'OH!

Blimey! I sold a 1 GHz slot 1 for £7 recently. Either I under charged, or the 933 you saw is overpriced (probably a bit of both). I'm hopeless at pricing things to sell 😁

Well, the 933 is a bit of an oddball in that regard - all I've seen looks Dell OEM'ish ...

BTW, I've made a reply on that exact thread on CPU-World - have you seen that? 😉

Meatball wrote on 2023-10-23, 11:53:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2023-10-23, 09:13:

I made a stupid move a couple of days ago ... I'm on the lookout for a Pentium III 933 slot-1. They are horribly priced on a well-known auction site - like +100US$. Then my saved search found a Dell motherboard (Precision 420) with one 933 Slot-1, memory, C-RIMMs (I think, or the memory banks were full) for US$25 or best offer .. Cheap as I were, I put in an offer, hoping to get it for $20 - but within no time, it was sold at listed price ... Of course ... So stupid of me ... D'OH!

I used to make that mistake. If I see something that is a good deal, most certainly, someone else in the world sees it, too.

It was the first time, I did that - but I've definately learned from it 🤣

H3nrik V! wrote on 2023-10-23, 12:31:

debs3759 wrote on 2023-10-23, 10:00:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2023-10-23, 09:13:

I made a stupid move a couple of days ago ... I'm on the lookout for a Pentium III 933 slot-1. They are horribly priced on a well-known auction site - like +100US$. Then my saved search found a Dell motherboard (Precision 420) with one 933 Slot-1, memory, C-RIMMs (I think, or the memory banks were full) for US$25 or best offer .. Cheap as I were, I put in an offer, hoping to get it for $20 - but within no time, it was sold at listed price ... Of course ... So stupid of me ... D'OH!

Blimey! I sold a 1 GHz slot 1 for £7 recently. Either I under charged, or the 933 you saw is overpriced (probably a bit of both). I'm hopeless at pricing things to sell 😁

Well, the 933 is a bit of an oddball in that regard - all I've seen looks Dell OEM'ish ...

BTW, I've made a reply on that exact thread on CPU-World - have you seen that? 😉

I had missed, but I just replied. I don't think I have any early enough to be unlocked.

Cleaning up and prepping an Athlon XP 2000+ and an MSI MS-6570 K7N2 mobo. I even found the copper shim and heatsink I bought back in 2001! Installed a new 60mm fan on the heatsink.

Which GPU should I go with for this build? I have the following AGP cards:
Rage 128 Pro Ultra
Matrox G550
Radeon X800
Radeon 9600se
Radeon 9800se
Geforce2 MX200
Geforce 6200

If that's your best AGP combo then give it the X800, but 9800SE is a bit more period and decent enough. If you were only going to do DX7 Win98 stuff and below, then maybe you'd consider the MX200.

H3nrik V! wrote on 2023-10-23, 12:32:

Meatball wrote on 2023-10-23, 11:53:

H3nrik V! wrote on 2023-10-23, 09:13:

I made a stupid move a couple of days ago ... I'm on the lookout for a Pentium III 933 slot-1. They are horribly priced on a well-known auction site - like +100US$. Then my saved search found a Dell motherboard (Precision 420) with one 933 Slot-1, memory, C-RIMMs (I think, or the memory banks were full) for US$25 or best offer .. Cheap as I were, I put in an offer, hoping to get it for $20 - but within no time, it was sold at listed price ... Of course ... So stupid of me ... D'OH!

I used to make that mistake. If I see something that is a good deal, most certainly, someone else in the world sees it, too.

It was the first time, I did that - but I've definately learned from it 🤣

I've been a penny pincher for four decades, but last 3 years the financial pressures have lifted and I'm fortunate to not have to just scrape by week to week. Thus I am trying to stop myself haggling out of habit on stuff that's already cheap. Not that I'm gonna throw money away either, just I can cheerfully pay the asking on stuff that's good value so shouldn't begrudge the last buck or something I would have tried to knock off.

The lack of individual addressable RGB LEDs and orange car wrapping film in modded early 2000s industrial PCs is not accaptable!

I cant wait to see how it will turn out. I try to just use the leds in placec where you cant see them directly (below the backplane, behind fans ...) .

Had some fun with an ASRock P4Dual-915GL.

There's just something funny and silly about pairing a SL6Z5 Northwood HT with a nicely decked-out Sapphire HD4870 1GB GDDR5 video card 🤣

Thermal grease on a ~20 year old video card. It was like concrete. Completely dry and gritty. Cleaned it off and repasted with Arctic MX-4.

Too hot for an Athlon XP 2000+? I'm worried the copper shim I used is preventing good contact. This is the temp in free air. Current room temp is 75F.

Changed the 8x8 and 8x16 fonts on my Trident PCI video card BIOS.

kingcake wrote on 2023-10-24, 02:03:

Too hot for an Athlon XP 2000+? I'm worried the copper shim I used is preventing good contact. This is the temp in free air. Current room temp is 75F.

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That's only a 60mm fanned sink right? What would be called "stock" size for an XP, so 53 is about expected, and may go up to 70 full load. The sinks with about a 40cfm 60mm screamer on like a Volcano 6CU would be more like 40 idle, 60 load, then you'd get sinks like an SLK 900 which would have it in the 30s with 50s load with a ~50cfm 80mm on.

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-10-24, 03:05:

kingcake wrote on 2023-10-24, 02:03:

Too hot for an Athlon XP 2000+? I'm worried the copper shim I used is preventing good contact. This is the temp in free air. Current room temp is 75F.

image_50452225.JPG
image_50771201.JPG

That's only a 60mm fanned sink right? What would be called "stock" size for an XP, so 53 is about expected, and may go up to 70 full load. The sinks with about a 40cfm 60mm screamer on like a Volcano 6CU would be more like 40 idle, 60 load, then you'd get sinks like an SLK 900 which would have it in the 30s with 50s load with a ~50cfm 80mm on.

Yep 60mmx15mm. Darn, I was hoping it would perform better than the stock HSF since it's a solid copper base. Guess this chip will just run warm because I'm not spending $40 on a NOS socket A performance cooler 🤣

DerBaum wrote on 2023-10-23, 18:05:

The lack of individual addressable RGB LEDs and orange car wrapping film in modded early 2000s industrial PCs is not accaptable!

2023-10-23 19.09.01.jpg

I cant wait to see how it will turn out. I try to just use the leds in placec where you cant see them directly (below the backplane, behind fans ...) .

Heresy... 🤣

appiah4 wrote on 2023-10-24, 08:24:

DerBaum wrote on 2023-10-23, 18:05:

The lack of individual addressable RGB LEDs and orange car wrapping film in modded early 2000s industrial PCs is not accaptable!

2023-10-23 19.09.01.jpg

I cant wait to see how it will turn out. I try to just use the leds in placec where you cant see them directly (below the backplane, behind fans ...) .

Heresy... 🤣

Its all reversable ...
excexpt maybe the huge hole in the side 😏
Re: What retro activity did you get up to today?

looked in a cpu holder box thing and surprised to find a tualatin 1.4-s cpu and a pentium 3 1ghz cpu. 🤣, kept these from a failed tusl2-m motherboard build over a decade ago. 🤣 😀

kingcake wrote on 2023-10-24, 05:09:

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-10-24, 03:05:

kingcake wrote on 2023-10-24, 02:03:

Too hot for an Athlon XP 2000+? I'm worried the copper shim I used is preventing good contact. This is the temp in free air. Current room temp is 75F.

image_50452225.JPG
image_50771201.JPG

That's only a 60mm fanned sink right? What would be called "stock" size for an XP, so 53 is about expected, and may go up to 70 full load. The sinks with about a 40cfm 60mm screamer on like a Volcano 6CU would be more like 40 idle, 60 load, then you'd get sinks like an SLK 900 which would have it in the 30s with 50s load with a ~50cfm 80mm on.

Yep 60mmx15mm. Darn, I was hoping it would perform better than the stock HSF since it's a solid copper base. Guess this chip will just run warm because I'm not spending $40 on a NOS socket A performance cooler 🤣

It was generally said that most socket A temperature readings were 10C higher than other platforms, so might not be as high as it seems like.

Edit: this is the best deal I know about in Socket A higher capacity, but not super high end coolers, https://www.cablesalescanada.com/index.php?ma … products_id=227

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-10-24, 12:21:

kingcake wrote on 2023-10-24, 05:09:

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-10-24, 03:05:

That's only a 60mm fanned sink right? What would be called "stock" size for an XP, so 53 is about expected, and may go up to 70 full load. The sinks with about a 40cfm 60mm screamer on like a Volcano 6CU would be more like 40 idle, 60 load, then you'd get sinks like an SLK 900 which would have it in the 30s with 50s load with a ~50cfm 80mm on.

Yep 60mmx15mm. Darn, I was hoping it would perform better than the stock HSF since it's a solid copper base. Guess this chip will just run warm because I'm not spending $40 on a NOS socket A performance cooler 🤣

It was generally said that most socket A temperature readings were 10C higher than other platforms, so might not be as high as it seems like.

Edit: this is the best deal I know about in Socket A higher capacity, but not super high end coolers, https://www.cablesalescanada.com/index.php?ma … products_id=227

Cool site. Great prices on retro cpu coolers. I bought a few to make the shipping worth it.

gmaverick2k wrote on 2023-10-24, 11:27:

looked in a cpu holder box thing and surprised to find a tualatin 1.4-s cpu and a pentium 3 1ghz cpu. 🤣, kept these from a failed tusl2-m motherboard build over a decade ago. 🤣 😀

Nice.
Like a cheeky little present from yourself to yourself.

kingcake wrote on 2023-10-24, 21:34:

BitWrangler wrote on 2023-10-24, 12:21:

kingcake wrote on 2023-10-24, 05:09:

Yep 60mmx15mm. Darn, I was hoping it would perform better than the stock HSF since it's a solid copper base. Guess this chip will just run warm because I'm not spending $40 on a NOS socket A performance cooler 🤣

It was generally said that most socket A temperature readings were 10C higher than other platforms, so might not be as high as it seems like.

Edit: this is the best deal I know about in Socket A higher capacity, but not super high end coolers, https://www.cablesalescanada.com/index.php?ma … products_id=227

Cool site. Great prices on retro cpu coolers. I bought a few to make the shipping worth it.

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Yeah I got a bunch off them in the spring, they had some early noughts GPU coolers then as well, guess it's just NOS that's clearing out. Also got weird crap like thinnet terminators and PCMCIA to SATA and AT case switches.