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Bought these (retro) hardware today

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Reply 43500 of 45419, by imi

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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-03-25, 15:07:

I'm guessing the bridge chip is that ID Data one ?

Is there something particularly great about it ? never heard of ID Data myself.

it's I/O Data, a japanese company, I'd assume it's some proprietary silicon, so I don't think it would be easily attainable, they made a variant of this card for C-Bus as well.

kixs wrote on 2022-03-25, 15:20:

Are there any tests out there? I wouldn't automatically assume it's faster than the Speedstar64.

I doubt it, it's a very obscure card, almost all the ones you can find out there are the C-Bus variant for PC-98 (I got an older one of these too), and yeah, I don't know if it's actually faster in real world scenarios but it certainly is a faster chip ^^ unfortunately I don't have a GD5434 myself.

here's the official site for the card, "DragonStar 64V"
https://www.iodata.jp/products/graphics/gadrv.htm

Reply 43501 of 45419, by mpe

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That Trident 9680 ISA is cool. I also wonder how does it perform.

CL-GD cards are known to be fast in passive DOS mode with no accel. I wonder if the bridge chip on the trident could slow things down slightly (but I am sure it would still excell in GUI due to better acceleration architecture).

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Reply 43502 of 45419, by kixs

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imi wrote on 2022-03-25, 15:40:
it's I/O Data, a japanese company, I'd assume it's some proprietary silicon, so I don't think it would be easily attainable, the […]
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TrashPanda wrote on 2022-03-25, 15:07:

I'm guessing the bridge chip is that ID Data one ?

Is there something particularly great about it ? never heard of ID Data myself.

it's I/O Data, a japanese company, I'd assume it's some proprietary silicon, so I don't think it would be easily attainable, they made a variant of this card for C-Bus as well.

kixs wrote on 2022-03-25, 15:20:

Are there any tests out there? I wouldn't automatically assume it's faster than the Speedstar64.

I doubt it, it's a very obscure card, almost all the ones you can find out there are the C-Bus variant for PC-98 (I got an older one of these too), and yeah, I don't know if it's actually faster in real world scenarios but it certainly is a faster chip ^^ unfortunately I don't have a GD5434 myself.

here's the official site for the card, "DragonStar 64V"
https://www.iodata.jp/products/graphics/gadrv.htm

Do you have it? Can you make some tests? The usual 3Dbench, PCPlayer, DOOM, Quake.

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Reply 43503 of 45419, by imi

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yeah I recently got it, I will at some point ^^ been very busy lately unfortunately.

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Reply 43504 of 45419, by brostenen

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hyoenmadan wrote on 2022-03-25, 00:13:
brostenen wrote on 2022-03-24, 21:45:

Why would he have a GUS in an Amiga? As far as I know, it would only be useable for the Dos side of an Amiga, if there were a bridge board installed. I dont think AmigaOS can access any ISA cards.

Interesting... I just read AHI + PC Soundcard support was available for both classic and PPC amigas... But only for PCI soundcards.
So far doesn't seem possible for any non-DOS bridgeboard, like Omnibus, Crosslink, etc... To do ISA + DMA access to/from the Amiga chipset, thus no accelerated ISA sound support possible from AmigaOS.

PCI slot. That would be a modern bus board, introduced after commodore. Dave Haynie did air his thoughts on PCI in a mail stream, talking about it being better than Zorro3. But PCI was not a bus that Commodore ever used. The bridgeboard that I am referring to, is one of them PC boards, that made you able to use the else inactive ISA slots that were in the 2000. But I dont know it there were any driver that bridged the ISA slot to the Amiga system through the PC card. If there is such software, then I am missing knowledge.

Some of the Amiga guys inside Commodore, thought that Zorro3 was superiour to PCI. They were so dead set on Zorro3, that not even the inventor of Zorro3 (Haynie) could make them think something else. It is a well known mail stream that have been public for years now.

Zorro3 is actually more like EISA, with the advantage of better and more robust autoconfiguration.of resources. Basically the same performance.

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Reply 43505 of 45419, by BetaC

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Today was a good day.

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After a little scrubbing and checking for capacitor juice it became a great day.

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And once the system was put back together it became a great day.

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Reply 43507 of 45419, by EvieSigma

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This Compaq Deskpro 50M isn't currently powering on but the hardware inside still makes the $100USD shipped asking price worthwhile...

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Reply 43508 of 45419, by BitWrangler

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Crap, that must have been hard work, loading all those MPEG-1 video files zipped across floppies 🤣

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Reply 43509 of 45419, by EvieSigma

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BitWrangler wrote on 2022-03-26, 00:48:

Crap, that must have been hard work, loading all those MPEG-1 video files zipped across floppies 🤣

I didn't pull it out yet but there's a Buslogic SCSI card in the machine, so it was probably used with an external SCSI CD-ROM drive.

Reply 43510 of 45419, by Cyrix200+

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I did not have time for the hobby a lot the last few months (years). But I went thrifting this weekend and usually there is no nice retro computer stuff to be found, but this time I found some exotic storage for 1 euro each 😀

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Reply 43511 of 45419, by Shponglefan

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Took delivery of a Roland MT-200 and pair of MA-12C speakers last week.

Speakers sound geat, but the MT-200 has some loose power & audio ports so it will need some minor repairs to get it working perfectly. Disk drive seems to be working fine.

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Reply 43512 of 45419, by devius

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Cyrix200+ wrote on 2022-03-27, 14:03:

I did not have time for the hobby a lot the last few months (years). But I went thrifting this weekend and usually there is no nice retro computer stuff to be found, but this time I found some exotic storage for 1 euro each 😀
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Today I learned that there are PCMCIA hard disk drives.

Also, those low capacity CF cards should be very useful for old computers that don't support HDDs bigger than 504MB.

Reply 43513 of 45419, by BitWrangler

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Cyrix200+ wrote on 2022-03-27, 14:03:

I did not have time for the hobby a lot the last few months (years). But I went thrifting this weekend and usually there is no nice retro computer stuff to be found, but this time I found some exotic storage for 1 euro each 😀
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Awesome deal. When I look at PCMCIA storage it seems prices are still held high by industrial demand.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 43514 of 45419, by RetroGamer4Ever

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I almost bought a DB50XG with an old SBAWE32 PnP in an eBay auction, but bid bots jacked up the price at the end to nearly $300, when it was not even $130 a few minutes before closing.

Reply 43515 of 45419, by Cuttoon

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RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2022-03-27, 17:30:

I almost bought a DB50XG with an old SBAWE32 PnP in an eBay auction, but bid bots jacked up the price at the end to nearly $300, when it was not even $130 a few minutes before closing.

How is bidding by bots "jacking up" as opposed to "outbidding you"?
Actual fraud aside, the buyer will pay those $300 and the seller the percentage for $300.
I like to (manually) snipe myself sometimes, but aren't you perfectly free to bid $301, days in advance?

BTW., strictly by market value, that is a normal price nowadays.
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Reply 43516 of 45419, by cyclone3d

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It generally isn't "bots" bidding the price up.

It is people using sniping services. They enter their max bid and then the sniping service bids for them right before the auction ends.

Yahoo auctions even has snipe bidding built in.

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Reply 43517 of 45419, by pentiumspeed

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EvieSigma wrote on 2022-03-26, 00:36:
This Compaq Deskpro 50M isn't currently powering on but the hardware inside still makes the $100USD shipped asking price worthwh […]
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This Compaq Deskpro 50M isn't currently powering on but the hardware inside still makes the $100USD shipped asking price worthwhile...

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Very nice, Do please rebuild that power supply, no matter what even blown. Replaceable board instead of a power supply box, this is unusual thing. Replacement power supply board is nearly impossible, don't try to find one I advise.
Had been a 2 years search and I had to buy second deskpro/M computer that has a power supply in it and this came from Rome, Italy. Not kidding. Paid lot.

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Reply 43518 of 45419, by debs3759

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RetroGamer4Ever wrote on 2022-03-27, 17:30:

I almost bought a DB50XG with an old SBAWE32 PnP in an eBay auction, but bid bots jacked up the price at the end to nearly $300, when it was not even $130 a few minutes before closing.

I snipe anything I expect to go for over £10. Even if my bid is £100s. That way, people who bid in small increments don't have time to outbid me. I bid what I can afford. I'm not a robot (although some who know me would say differently!). Sniping gets me some better prices than if I just bid openly and early.

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Reply 43519 of 45419, by Kahenraz

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There was a boxed Audigy 2 ZS on auction recently with a bid of $32. Some bums started a bid war during the last few minutes and jacked the price up over $100. They were all there watching the listing. There was no need to inflate the price like that right before it closed.