I am also guilty of reversing a 3.5" floppy cable, and there was no damage. I've never reversed a 5.25" floppy connector. Aren't those card edges keyed?

Kahenraz wrote on 2023-11-02, 19:52:

I am also guilty of reversing a 3.5" floppy cable, and there was no damage. I've never reversed a 5.25" floppy connector. Aren't those card edges keyed?

The exact thing that happened: i tried to connect a 3 1/2 drive to the same cable and that was reversed.
From that moment on the 5 1/4 drive stopped working properly.

amadeus777999 wrote on 2023-11-02, 14:00:

zwrr wrote on 2023-11-02, 03:43:

Got these today： 1. Matrox Millennium II, 8MB of WRAM is integrated on board. 2.MSI MS-4131G, 128K L2 cache installed,The locati […]
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Got these today：
1. Matrox Millennium II, 8MB of WRAM is integrated on board.
2.MSI MS-4131G, 128K L2 cache installed,The location of the CPU socket is peculiar.

MGA-1.jpg

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MS4131G-1.jpg

MS4131G-2.jpg

Nice one - I had quite a few from these.
At first I couldn't believe that these really carried 8MiB.

Yes, we have seen too many onboard integrated 4MB, or 8MB Millennium II with an expansion board, but with an integrated 8MB onboard, it is very special and I believe it can achieve 16MB with an expansion board.

Madowax wrote on 2019-06-07, 08:54:

Bought these (retro) hardware today […]
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Bought these (retro) hardware today

Well, I just managed to get the bigger sister of the Winner 1000...

ELSA WINNER 2000 TwinBus (4MB VRAM S3 928 EISA/ISA with 170Mhz Ramdac)

Could you please upload a BIOS dump of this card?

DerBaum wrote on 2023-11-02, 20:24:

Kahenraz wrote on 2023-11-02, 19:52:

I am also guilty of reversing a 3.5" floppy cable, and there was no damage. I've never reversed a 5.25" floppy connector. Aren't those card edges keyed?

The exact thing that happened: i tried to connect a 3 1/2 drive to the same cable and that was reversed.
From that moment on the 5 1/4 drive stopped working properly.

Well , if the new one works I wouldn't touch it.
My experience with dead floppy drives is: when they are dead leave them as is. You can only do more damage (to other drives).
Sad but true.

Besides that: I've never seen such a nice and colorful PCB. It really looks like a piece of art (at least from the picture). How the hell are all those resistors and capacitors mounted? They look like inserted in unplated through holes.

Acquired 2 of those ... looks like HP branded Asus p2b-d variant ? (HP NetServer E60).

Both boot up fine, extensive testing needed. Very basic AMI bios.

I've never had a reversed 3.5" cable damage anything, it always results in an always on LED on the drive activity light and a complete misdetection of the drive. Reverse plugging a 5.25" cable is kind of difficult as they are supposed to be keyed on one edge. That said, I HAVE seen cables with edge connectors that were not keyed, not to mention that you could plug in the motherboard end of the cable in reverse..

I whis to connect all my IBM to just one monitor, keyboard and mouse…

I whis to connect all my IBM to just one monitor, keyboard and mouse…

I whis to connect all my IBM to just one monitor, keyboard and mouse…

I whis to connect all my IBM to just one monitor, keyboard and mouse…

zwrr wrote on 2023-11-02, 23:30:

amadeus777999 wrote on 2023-11-02, 14:00:

zwrr wrote on 2023-11-02, 03:43:

Got these today： 1. Matrox Millennium II, 8MB of WRAM is integrated on board. 2.MSI MS-4131G, 128K L2 cache installed,The locati […]
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Got these today：
1. Matrox Millennium II, 8MB of WRAM is integrated on board.
2.MSI MS-4131G, 128K L2 cache installed,The location of the CPU socket is peculiar.

MGA-1.jpg

MGA-2.jpg

MS4131G-1.jpg

MS4131G-2.jpg

Nice one - I had quite a few from these.
At first I couldn't believe that these really carried 8MiB.

Yes, we have seen too many onboard integrated 4MB, or 8MB Millennium II with an expansion board, but with an integrated 8MB onboard, it is very special and I believe it can achieve 16MB with an expansion board.

16 would be cool - with a huge CRT it may be nice to see... I do not know the maximum resolution the MMII supports though... maybe 1600x1200x32 with two pages.

stef80 wrote on 2023-11-03, 07:53:

Acquired 2 of those ... looks like HP branded Asus p2b-d variant ? HP_slot1.jpg HP_slot1_back.jpg […]
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Acquired 2 of those ... looks like HP branded Asus p2b-d variant ?
HP_slot1.jpg
HP_slot1_back.jpg

Both boot up fine, extensive testing needed. Very basic AMI bios.

Last year i bought an HP Netserver lp1000r
Dual 1Ghz Coppermine. It was very cheap. 30€ shipped !

I was surprised to see that it was actually an Asus board inside.
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/asus-cur-dlsr

The HP bios was very limited and i was able to flash the original ASUS one without any issue.
Can worth a try if you have two boards.
If the flashing fails, you can reflash the old bios from the second board by hotswapping the rom.

Have TL866 programmer and BIOS is socketed, so no problem there. But I can't find the original Asus model 😉.

zwrr wrote on 2023-11-02, 23:30:

Yes, we have seen too many onboard integrated 4MB, or 8MB Millennium II with an expansion board, but with an integrated 8MB onboard, it is very special and I believe it can achieve 16MB with an expansion board.

I have one with 8MB as well, so they can't be that rare 😆 If you're curious about the benefits of having 16MB on a Millennium II check out: Matrox Millennium II 16MB - exists? If so, why?

I had no plans to ever buy this board, but since I stumbled into some of the last AGP cards released (7800 GS and HD 4650), I figured I might as well pick up one of the last AGP boards to go along with them - the 775Dual-VSTA. An I/O Shield, 2GB of DDR2, and an Intel Core2 E7600 were also included. The RAM has since been swapped out with Corsair Xtreme XMS2 PC2-6400 4-4-4-12@350MHz Dominator PC2-8500 5-5-5-15. Initially, it would not run with two sticks of the Dominator Rev. 1.2 - the board would only POST with a single stick installed. However, I also have a matching set of 2GB Rev. 1.0, and the board is now working fine with them.

I also picked up a GeForce 2 Ti, which is being tested in the board at the moment before moving on to the 7800 GS, HD 4650, and once it arrives, a 550 Ti.

Based on a single low res photo and barely a description more than "old PC" I grabbed this system off Facebook Marketplace. Looked like a 286 or 386, and with the monitor it seemed like it was worth saving.

I think I made a good gamble: It had a nice little surprise inside, a Cyrix 486DLC-33. 😀

Other than that, it's an Acer ISA486GLi motherboard with a couple floppy drives, two Maxtor IDE drives (131MB and 540MB) and didn't really have much in terms of cards installed, an Oak OTI-077 being the most "exciting". This "Axiom" VGA monitor seems unremarkable too, can't find much record of it existing online, but I do like having more serviceable smaller CRTs for older systems like this that won't be pushing high resolutions.

Haven't quite decided if I will hold on to this or not, but will probably at least keep the 486DLC.

got 2x servers with tyan s2462 dual socket A boards for 25$

MrKsoft wrote on 2023-11-05, 00:16:

Based on a single low res photo and barely a description more than "old PC" I grabbed this system off Facebook Marketplace. Loo […]
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Based on a single low res photo and barely a description more than "old PC" I grabbed this system off Facebook Marketplace. Looked like a 286 or 386, and with the monitor it seemed like it was worth saving.

I think I made a good gamble: It had a nice little surprise inside, a Cyrix 486DLC-33. 😀

Other than that, it's an Acer ISA486GLi motherboard with a couple floppy drives, two Maxtor IDE drives (131MB and 540MB) and didn't really have much in terms of cards installed, an Oak OTI-077 being the most "exciting". This "Axiom" VGA monitor seems unremarkable too, can't find much record of it existing online, but I do like having more serviceable smaller CRTs for older systems like this that won't be pushing high resolutions.

Haven't quite decided if I will hold on to this or not, but will probably at least keep the 486DLC.

When I saw it I thought it was the same a s one I got last week. Coincidences... 😀
I'll try the BIOS to see if it POSTs with your BIOS version.

MrKsoft wrote on 2023-11-05, 00:16:

Based on a single low res photo and barely a description more than "old PC" I grabbed this system off Facebook Marketplace. Loo […]
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Based on a single low res photo and barely a description more than "old PC" I grabbed this system off Facebook Marketplace. Looked like a 286 or 386, and with the monitor it seemed like it was worth saving.

I think I made a good gamble: It had a nice little surprise inside, a Cyrix 486DLC-33. 😀

Other than that, it's an Acer ISA486GLi motherboard with a couple floppy drives, two Maxtor IDE drives (131MB and 540MB) and didn't really have much in terms of cards installed, an Oak OTI-077 being the most "exciting". This "Axiom" VGA monitor seems unremarkable too, can't find much record of it existing online, but I do like having more serviceable smaller CRTs for older systems like this that won't be pushing high resolutions.

Haven't quite decided if I will hold on to this or not, but will probably at least keep the 486DLC.

A few members here feel that DX2/66 are overrated and fast 386 slow 486 are the sweetspot for late 80s into early 90s DOS gaming, and then jump to pentium for the Doom+ FPS and fast action stuff. So that would be a good reason to keep this one together and use it.