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Reply 51580 of 52817, by Trashbytes

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Weirdly off Evil Bay, local Aussie seller from Victoria, I live out in the boonies of SA so no local e-waste dealers here or much of anything honestly 🤣.

Not a bad haul for 80 bucks, fingers crossed it all tests out ok.

IIRC Queensland has some weird laws regarding E-Waste, IIRC there is some proviso that once its gone to e-waste they are not legally allowed to sell it on. I could be wrong about that but I do recall Queensland does it differently to the rest of Australia.

Reply 51581 of 52817, by zuldan

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-01-27, 11:53:

Weirdly off Evil Bay, local Aussie seller from Victoria, I live out in the boonies of SA so no local e-waste dealers here or much of anything honestly 🤣.

Not a bad haul for 80 bucks, fingers crossed it all tests out ok.

Very lucky! What words were used in the advertisement?

Reply 51582 of 52817, by Trashbytes

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zuldan wrote on 2024-01-27, 11:56:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-01-27, 11:53:

Weirdly off Evil Bay, local Aussie seller from Victoria, I live out in the boonies of SA so no local e-waste dealers here or much of anything honestly 🤣.

Not a bad haul for 80 bucks, fingers crossed it all tests out ok.

Very lucky! What words were used in the advertisement?

Since its a finished sale I guess I can just post the listing here https://www.ebay.com/itm/156029559818, there are a lot of other pics I couldn't post here.

I should note I didn't include the postage costs, which was 40 bucks.

Reply 51584 of 52817, by Horun

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-01-27, 11:57:
zuldan wrote on 2024-01-27, 11:56:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-01-27, 11:53:

Weirdly off Evil Bay, local Aussie seller from Victoria, I live out in the boonies of SA so no local e-waste dealers here or much of anything honestly 🤣.

Not a bad haul for 80 bucks, fingers crossed it all tests out ok.

Very lucky! What words were used in the advertisement?

Since its a finished sale I guess I can just post the listing here https://www.ebay.com/itm/156029559818, there are a lot of other pics I couldn't post here.

I should note I didn't include the postage costs, which was 40 bucks.

Very good for the price ! If all 3 floppies work they are worth the total bill in my area....

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Reply 51585 of 52817, by Ensign Nemo

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acl wrote on 2024-01-27, 10:23:
Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-01-26, 21:59:
Just grabbed a Toshiba Satellite Pro 435CDS. From what I've read, it's one of the better laptops for DOS sound support, as it ha […]
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Just grabbed a Toshiba Satellite Pro 435CDS. From what I've read, it's one of the better laptops for DOS sound support, as it has an ESS688 and an OPL3. It has a Pentium 120 Mhz under the hood, which should be good for DOS gaming (I just plug my laptops into an external monitor). As usual, it had a PCMCIA card that is missing the dongle plugged into it. If anyone needs a modem card without a dongle let me know (-:

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One downside is that the BIOS is locked, but I think that can be fixed by shorting a few pins on the parallel port.

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I now have 5 Pentium era laptops, so I think I'm ready to hold off unless something really unique becomes available cheap.

I have a 430CDS and I used it for a 90's style Doom deathmatch party last year. Worked great.

Do you know if there are significant differences with the 430 CDS ? Every PDF I found labelled as 430/435 specifications turned out to only contain the 430 and nothing about the 435...

Good to know! I have no idea what the differences are, but I can run HWINFO on it. That might show if there are any hardware differences.

Reply 51586 of 52817, by BitWrangler

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I think possibly it's RAM or HDD size is bigger, 2nd number probably CPU speed grade.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 51587 of 52817, by Thermalwrong

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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-01-27, 17:41:
acl wrote on 2024-01-27, 10:23:
Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-01-26, 21:59:
Just grabbed a Toshiba Satellite Pro 435CDS. From what I've read, it's one of the better laptops for DOS sound support, as it ha […]
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Just grabbed a Toshiba Satellite Pro 435CDS. From what I've read, it's one of the better laptops for DOS sound support, as it has an ESS688 and an OPL3. It has a Pentium 120 Mhz under the hood, which should be good for DOS gaming (I just plug my laptops into an external monitor). As usual, it had a PCMCIA card that is missing the dongle plugged into it. If anyone needs a modem card without a dongle let me know (-:

435CDS_closed.jpg

One downside is that the BIOS is locked, but I think that can be fixed by shorting a few pins on the parallel port.

435CDS.jpg

I now have 5 Pentium era laptops, so I think I'm ready to hold off unless something really unique becomes available cheap.

I have a 430CDS and I used it for a 90's style Doom deathmatch party last year. Worked great.

Do you know if there are significant differences with the 430 CDS ? Every PDF I found labelled as 430/435 specifications turned out to only contain the 430 and nothing about the 435...

Good to know! I have no idea what the differences are, but I can run HWINFO on it. That might show if there are any hardware differences.

All of the models ending in "5" like 435CDS or 3025CT are different only in the software package and 1-year warranty, possibly specifically for retail sale. See the last page on here:
https://manualzz.com/doc/22673180/toshiba-435 … p-specification
"3. The Satellite Pro 435CDS (PA1230U-S6C ) is the retail equivalent of the Satellite Pro 430CDS (PA1230U-S2C ), but comes with a 1 Year Warranty and the following extra software: Microsoft Works, Microsoft Money, Microsoft Schedule Plus, and Microsoft Golf"
I checked out the restore media for the Satellite 445 which is a later hardware design and it's got that software pre-installed but needs the CDs that would've come in the box to use any of that extra software.

BTW that Toshiba Satellite 435CDS is a nice find and I recommend carefully prying up the plastic strip that holds down the keyboard, to remove and dispose of the two batteries sitting under the keyboard - they're all leaking by this point and will break the motherboard if left in place.

Reply 51588 of 52817, by Socket3

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-01-25, 23:45:

It's also important to take your CPU into consideration as well. I upgraded my video card several times in the 2000s, even up to a GeForce 6800 GT, without realizing that my Pentium 1.4 Ghz (later upgraded to 1.😎 was holding everything back. That and my 256MB of RAM made it anemic by Windows XP, but RDRAM was expensive and I decided to hold out for a complete upgrade instead. It was quite torturous by the end.

Although I am bias through the lens of nostalgia, I honestly feel that a 6800 GT is more than enough for a pleasurable XP experience. The benchmarks were unbelievable at release compared to previous generations.

There is quite a bit of overlap when it comes to winXP and Win Vista/7 era games. In theory, any game that does not require DX10/11 will run great on XP - that includes games up to 2010 or even 2012 in some (rare) cases.

XP era games for most people are probably Doom 3, Far Cry, NFS Underground, Homeworld 2 and so on, but for me the XP era stretches out to include STALKER, Fallout 3, Crysis, Bioshock, CoD 1-4, Company of Heroes, Warhammer 40k and so on. For most of these later games a 6800GT is.... insuficient, especially if you want to game at higher resolutions (1600x1200) with eye candy on. My personal favorite late-XP era cards are the GTX 280 and the Radeon 4870, but I've build XP(ish) rigs using i7 Nehalem platforms and Radeon 7970 / GTX 760 video cards. I like to enjoy retro games with full eye candy.

Before you say anything, I know all these 2006 onwards games will run perfectly happily on modern machines, but I keep these on older rigs together with 4:3 monitors, witch I think they look better on. Some of them anyway.

Reply 51589 of 52817, by demiurge

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Got a weird VGA card. SiS 6205 chipset. Posted with the rest of my video card collection at vgamuseum.info

https://vgamuseum.info/index.php/component/k2 … m/1172-sis-6205

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Reply 51590 of 52817, by Trashbytes

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demiurge wrote on 2024-01-28, 02:02:

Got a weird VGA card. SiS 6205 chipset. Posted with the rest of my video card collection at vgamuseum.info

https://vgamuseum.info/index.php/component/k2 … m/1172-sis-6205

Such a weird little card, I dont suppose its terribly useful without the supporting motherboard but would be curious to see how it stacks up against similar cards.

Still a very nice card to have on a unique display shelf or in a museum.

Reply 51592 of 52817, by Ensign Nemo

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Thermalwrong wrote on 2024-01-28, 00:11:
All of the models ending in "5" like 435CDS or 3025CT are different only in the software package and 1-year warranty, possibly s […]
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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-01-27, 17:41:
acl wrote on 2024-01-27, 10:23:

I have a 430CDS and I used it for a 90's style Doom deathmatch party last year. Worked great.

Do you know if there are significant differences with the 430 CDS ? Every PDF I found labelled as 430/435 specifications turned out to only contain the 430 and nothing about the 435...

Good to know! I have no idea what the differences are, but I can run HWINFO on it. That might show if there are any hardware differences.

All of the models ending in "5" like 435CDS or 3025CT are different only in the software package and 1-year warranty, possibly specifically for retail sale. See the last page on here:
https://manualzz.com/doc/22673180/toshiba-435 … p-specification
"3. The Satellite Pro 435CDS (PA1230U-S6C ) is the retail equivalent of the Satellite Pro 430CDS (PA1230U-S2C ), but comes with a 1 Year Warranty and the following extra software: Microsoft Works, Microsoft Money, Microsoft Schedule Plus, and Microsoft Golf"
I checked out the restore media for the Satellite 445 which is a later hardware design and it's got that software pre-installed but needs the CDs that would've come in the box to use any of that extra software.

BTW that Toshiba Satellite 435CDS is a nice find and I recommend carefully prying up the plastic strip that holds down the keyboard, to remove and dispose of the two batteries sitting under the keyboard - they're all leaking by this point and will break the motherboard if left in place.

Thanks for the info, that's good to know. Also, I appreciate the advice about the battery. I'll get on that ASAP.

Reply 51593 of 52817, by Trashbytes

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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-01-28, 04:30:
Thermalwrong wrote on 2024-01-28, 00:11:
All of the models ending in "5" like 435CDS or 3025CT are different only in the software package and 1-year warranty, possibly s […]
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Ensign Nemo wrote on 2024-01-27, 17:41:

Good to know! I have no idea what the differences are, but I can run HWINFO on it. That might show if there are any hardware differences.

All of the models ending in "5" like 435CDS or 3025CT are different only in the software package and 1-year warranty, possibly specifically for retail sale. See the last page on here:
https://manualzz.com/doc/22673180/toshiba-435 … p-specification
"3. The Satellite Pro 435CDS (PA1230U-S6C ) is the retail equivalent of the Satellite Pro 430CDS (PA1230U-S2C ), but comes with a 1 Year Warranty and the following extra software: Microsoft Works, Microsoft Money, Microsoft Schedule Plus, and Microsoft Golf"
I checked out the restore media for the Satellite 445 which is a later hardware design and it's got that software pre-installed but needs the CDs that would've come in the box to use any of that extra software.

BTW that Toshiba Satellite 435CDS is a nice find and I recommend carefully prying up the plastic strip that holds down the keyboard, to remove and dispose of the two batteries sitting under the keyboard - they're all leaking by this point and will break the motherboard if left in place.

Thanks for the info, that's good to know. Also, I appreciate the advice about the battery. I'll get on that ASAP.

Last 430CDS I saw here the battery had not just corroded its surroundings but had destroyed the Aluminium body and made it brittle then the electrolyte had worked its way up the connecting wires and had eaten away the motherboard in that area, was quite a mess.

Reply 51594 of 52817, by Kahenraz

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-01-28, 04:24:
Kahenraz wrote on 2024-01-27, 14:12:

What a lonely little board.

What board is lonely ?

I need some context here 🤣

I mistyped that one. I meant to say that it was a "lovely" board. I've attached a picture of it here, since the eBay like will die at some point anyways.

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Reply 51597 of 52817, by Trashbytes

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-01-28, 06:58:
Trashbytes wrote on 2024-01-28, 04:24:
Kahenraz wrote on 2024-01-27, 14:12:

What a lonely little board.

What board is lonely ?

I need some context here 🤣

I mistyped that one. I meant to say that it was a "lovely" board. I've attached a picture of it here, since the eBay like will die at some point anyways.

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Yeah I really hope that board works, its been repaired and I doubt anyone would go to such repairs for a board that didnt work. Still trying to find a good PLCC FPU for it, I found a 33Mhz Intel one and a ITT one which isnt terribly fast FPU wise. Cant seem to locate a Fasmath PLCC though.

Reply 51598 of 52817, by Trashbytes

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Got another rare motherboard a GA-686KX which is a Slot 1 440FX board .. looks like a Socket8 board with a Slot 1 instead. Apparently it doesn't work but since it has one of them nasty Dallas RTC units on it hopefully all it needs is a new one, though I did notice one of the ISA slots needs some pin work done on it too but that shouldn't stop it from posting.

This is the first Slot 1 FX board I have ever seen on eBay or anywhere else, it looks like it needs 72 pin EDO sticks too and I have a couple spare here but they are a pain to source, the ram slots and VRM look to be in good shape so fingers crossed the board doesn't require extensive repairs.

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You can see the damaged pin on the first ISA slot next to the PCI slots.

-Sorry about the quality of the images .. Vogons compression leaves a lot to be desired ...its shockingly bad.

Reply 51599 of 52817, by PcBytes

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I'd replace the CPU caps at least, if RTC mod fails to POST. I've seen quite a lot of those 1990s caps fail without any bulge. (yes, I'm looking at ya, Jackcon and ABIT.)

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