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Reply 52460 of 53082, by Shadzilla

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Kahenraz wrote on 2024-04-02, 13:13:
Shadzilla wrote on 2024-04-02, 12:29:

Looking forward to building my first Slot A system 😀

I've heard that these AMD systems need a very strong 5V rail, which doesn't seem to be a common feature in modern power supplies. If the system is unstable, this might be the reason.

Good to know, thank you!

Reply 52461 of 53082, by PC@LIVE

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Purchased a little while ago, a batch of three motherboards, two socket 370 and a 423, just a few days ago I had bought another 423, but this one has RDRAM instead of SDRAM, and that's fine for me, I wanted a second 423 with RDRAM, and I keep four modules aside for a total of 512 MB (4X 128).
The 370s on the other hand have VIA chipsets, no Tualatin support, only Coppermine, but it's still good.
I hope they arrive soon, in the meantime I'll start preparing, RAM and other things, I don't have the heatsink with fan for 423, I'll see if I can adapt one, or if I can find a second-hand one.

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Reply 52462 of 53082, by fillosaurus

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supercordo wrote on 2024-04-01, 21:48:

Just bought my first video card from Quantum3D!! Sellers picture.

I have the AGP version.

Y2K box: AMD Athlon K75 (second generation slot A)@700, ASUS K7M motherboard, 256 MB SDRAM, ATI Radeon 7500+2xVoodoo2 in SLI, SB Live! 5.1, VIA USB 2.0 PCI card, 40 GB Seagate HDD.
WIP: external midi module based on NEC wavetable (Yamaha clone)

Reply 52463 of 53082, by fillosaurus

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supercordo wrote on 2024-04-01, 21:48:

Just bought my first video card from Quantum3D!! Sellers picture.

I have the AGP version.

Y2K box: AMD Athlon K75 (second generation slot A)@700, ASUS K7M motherboard, 256 MB SDRAM, ATI Radeon 7500+2xVoodoo2 in SLI, SB Live! 5.1, VIA USB 2.0 PCI card, 40 GB Seagate HDD.
WIP: external midi module based on NEC wavetable (Yamaha clone)

Reply 52464 of 53082, by fillosaurus

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supercordo wrote on 2024-04-01, 21:48:

Just bought my first video card from Quantum3D!! Sellers picture.

I have the AGP version.

Y2K box: AMD Athlon K75 (second generation slot A)@700, ASUS K7M motherboard, 256 MB SDRAM, ATI Radeon 7500+2xVoodoo2 in SLI, SB Live! 5.1, VIA USB 2.0 PCI card, 40 GB Seagate HDD.
WIP: external midi module based on NEC wavetable (Yamaha clone)

Reply 52465 of 53082, by Linoleum

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bestemor wrote on 2024-04-02, 03:09:
Me just curious, when you turn it on, does it have a LOUD 'bang' each time ? Louder than you'd expect, I mean ? And what is the […]
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Linoleum wrote on 2024-04-02, 01:01:

What I thought I was going to pickup was a 19 inch Viewsonic CRT monitor (my dream), turned out to be a 22 inch!!!!! If I am reading the manual correctly, this thing can do 2048 x 1536 @ 60 Hz. Now I am going to feel like John Carmack when he was coding Quake!! 🤣

Me just curious, when you turn it on, does it have a LOUD 'bang' each time ?
Louder than you'd expect, I mean ? And what is the manufacture date on the back (month/year) ?
PS: also the max resolution seems to be possible even @68hz refresh rate.
(page 5 in the manual, bottom table, the 'manually' set rates vs the preset timings)

Kind of... But not as loud as I thought it would be.

#1: Sempron 3000+, 1Gb, HD3650 AGP, SB Audigy 2 ZS
#2: P4 1.8Ghz, 512Mb, Voodoo3 3000, SB Live!
#3: P3 866Mhz, 384Mb, Riva TNT2 AGP, SB Live!
#4: P233 MMX, 64Mb, ATI Rage II+, SB 32
#5: P100, 32Mb , S3 Virge, Sb16, Mt32-Pi & PicoGus v2.0

Reply 52466 of 53082, by BetaC

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Nothing too fancy today, just a cute little ceramic 5x86 with a board sandwich below it to, maybe, just add a fan to it.

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Reply 52467 of 53082, by Trashbytes

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BetaC wrote on 2024-04-03, 05:01:

Nothing too fancy today, just a cute little ceramic 5x86 with a board sandwich below it to, maybe, just add a fan to it.
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Thats an interposer, likely to throw it onto a board that doesnt support that CPU, if you are just putting it onto a 5v board then it wont need that interposer.

Can you separate the two .. would be cool to see pics of that interposer, would be able to tell what its for.

Reply 52468 of 53082, by BitWrangler

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That sounds backwards to me, should be to support it on a 5V only board.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 52469 of 53082, by BetaC

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Trashbytes wrote on 2024-04-03, 05:58:
BetaC wrote on 2024-04-03, 05:01:

Nothing too fancy today, just a cute little ceramic 5x86 with a board sandwich below it to, maybe, just add a fan to it.
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Thats an interposer, likely to throw it onto a board that doesnt support that CPU, if you are just putting it onto a 5v board then it wont need that interposer.

Can you separate the two .. would be cool to see pics of that interposer, would be able to tell what its for.

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And here's the mass of layers. I don't have a tool to remove the CPU cleanly, so I am going to keep it together for the moment.

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Reply 52470 of 53082, by OMORES

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This Genius EasyMouse, serial, for 1$.

https://fccid.io/FSUGMZE3 - a hot item from 1996...

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Reply 52471 of 53082, by acl

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OMORES wrote on 2024-04-03, 18:27:

This Genius EasyMouse, serial, for 1$.

https://fccid.io/FSUGMZE3 - a hot item from 1996...

Hmm.
That reminds me that I ended up with too much old mice. I will try to list them on the givaway thread before sending them to trash.
I have some serial ones I guess... yours looks familiar to me. I might have one too.

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Reply 52472 of 53082, by ubiq

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A wondrously and evenly yellowed AOpen/Acer AT case (incl. the cdrom!), ca. 1996 I figure. A little too new for it, but I'll be putting a 486 of some sort in it.

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Reply 52473 of 53082, by BitWrangler

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I am crossing my fingers for you, but somewhere around then Acer went to weird not quite standard stuff.

Unicorn herding operations are proceeding, but all the totes of hens teeth and barrels of rocking horse poop give them plenty of hiding spots.

Reply 52474 of 53082, by ubiq

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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-04-04, 03:57:

I am crossing my fingers for you, but somewhere around then Acer went to weird not quite standard stuff.

Huh, you're not wrong... looks like the slots for the plastic spacers are slightly non-standard. Thankfully, there are also threaded holes for metal standoffs, so looks like I might have dodged a bullet:

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🙂👍

Reply 52475 of 53082, by PD2JK

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Nice board, Mr BIOS and I see three brands of cache memory. 25 and 20ns?

Now I wonder how SRAM speed corelates with cpu speed. I.e: do you need 10/12/15ns cache in order to run a 133MHz CPU perfectly stable, or does 25ns suffice as well?

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Reply 52476 of 53082, by ubiq

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PD2JK wrote on 2024-04-04, 04:35:

Nice board, Mr BIOS and I see three brands of cache memory. 25 and 20ns?

Now I wonder how SRAM speed corelates with cpu speed. I.e: do you need 10/12/15ns cache in order to run a 133MHz CPU perfectly stable, or does 25ns suffice as well?

Yeah, the board came with that odd assortment of cache memory. I haven’t run it up at all other than to verify that it posts. Honestly, if it’s stable I’ll probably leave it as is. I’m planning just a classic DX2/66 + 16 megs ram and not looking to build a perfectly optimized speed demon.

Reply 52477 of 53082, by GigAHerZ

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ubiq wrote on 2024-04-04, 04:18:
Huh, you're not wrong... looks like the slots for the plastic spacers are slightly non-standard. Thankfully, there are also thre […]
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BitWrangler wrote on 2024-04-04, 03:57:

I am crossing my fingers for you, but somewhere around then Acer went to weird not quite standard stuff.

Huh, you're not wrong... looks like the slots for the plastic spacers are slightly non-standard. Thankfully, there are also threaded holes for metal standoffs, so looks like I might have dodged a bullet:
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🙂👍

Please dump the rom!
There are almost no 486-class MR BIOSes available.
Share the love! 😁

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!

Reply 52478 of 53082, by PD2JK

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Highscreen Kompakt III with an AMD 386SX-33 for not too much. Fortunately only discolored by the sun, not tar or nicotine.

I might just win a 'who-got-the-yellowest' competition.

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There's a Philips LMS ( CM260 card + CM206 drive ) installed, never seen one in the flesh.

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