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Reply 16420 of 47864, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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GL1zdA wrote:
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Creative Sound Blaster Live! X-Gamer. Normally nothing to be excited about, but seller had everything (manuals, driver CD, demo CD, and even all 3 games). Box was also in good condition.

How does the sound quality on that compare to the standard and value models? I run a value in my P3-900 machine and I always get a slight bit of humming at top volumes on my headphones

It's still a Live! Value card.

So its a value with a black PCB? Well, if theres literally no difference that has to be the most ass backwards useless product I've ever seen from Creative.

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Reply 16421 of 47864, by dexvx

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

So its a value with a black PCB? Well, if theres literally no difference that has to be the most ass backwards useless product I've ever seen from Creative.

Pretty much. But the way I looked at it, I would've bought Descent 3 anyways, so all this stuff for basically the cost of (USPS Medium Flat rate) shipping seems great.

Reply 16422 of 47864, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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dexvx wrote:
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So its a value with a black PCB? Well, if theres literally no difference that has to be the most ass backwards useless product I've ever seen from Creative.

Pretty much. But the way I looked at it, I would've bought Descent 3 anyways, so all this stuff for basically the cost of (USPS Medium Flat rate) shipping seems great.

Yeah True. Myself though I would have bought one of the many compilations that are oh so cheap and abundant on eBay which contained Descent III and gotten more games for my money. Hardware wise, I'm pretty solid right now and relatively well prepared for critical component failures.

Maybe I'm weird for collecting compilations though.

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Reply 16423 of 47864, by cyclone3d

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Have these on the way now.

PAS 16 - $15 shipped.

Aztech Sound Galaxy NX Pro - supposedly has a dead channel, but it was cheap and should hopefully be an easy fix. ($8.95 + shipping). It also was not listed by the actual model name.. just the model number so I had to do a bit of research to find out exactly what it was.
Yay for a card that has a ton of compatibility - Adlib, SB Pro 2.0, Covox, Disney Sound Source, real OPL3, Windows Sound system. And a good MPU-401 interface supposedly.

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Reply 16424 of 47864, by ATi_Loyalist

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Reply 16425 of 47864, by badmojo

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Maybe I'm weird for collecting compilations though.

Collecting compilations isn't weird, but offering other adults advice on how to better spend their money is. Unless you're not an adult, in which case your behaviour makes sense 😀

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Reply 16426 of 47864, by dexvx

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TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:
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Pretty much. But the way I looked at it, I would've bought Descent 3 anyways, so all this stuff for basically the cost of (USPS Medium Flat rate) shipping seems great.

Yeah True. Myself though I would have bought one of the many compilations that are oh so cheap and abundant on eBay which contained Descent III and gotten more games for my money. Hardware wise, I'm pretty solid right now and relatively well prepared for critical component failures.

Maybe I'm weird for collecting compilations though.

Also, if it means anything, the my X-Gamer is CT4760. I have a Live! Value that is CT4830. The X-Gamer has (probably faux) gold connectors while the Value has the plastic color coded ones.

Also technically I bought the below setup years ago, but I just powered it on now. Asus P4GPL-X (i915PL Socket 478) with Asus CT-479 adapter running a Pentium-M 730. I remember doing 12x166 = 2.0GHz easy, but it hit the wall around 2.2GHz. May buy a cheap Pentium-M to overclock. GPU is a HIS ATI X800 PCI-E (which looks remarkably similar to ATI_Loyalist's X850.

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Reply 16427 of 47864, by cyclone3d

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badmojo wrote:
TheAbandonwareGuy wrote:

Maybe I'm weird for collecting compilations though.

Collecting compilations isn't weird, but offering other adults advice on how to better spend their money is. Unless you're not an adult, in which case your behaviour makes sense 😀

But if you save money, then you can buy more retro gear 😁

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Reply 16428 of 47864, by Kamerat

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dexvx wrote:

Also, if it means anything, the my X-Gamer is CT4760. I have a Live! Value that is CT4830. The X-Gamer has (probably faux) gold connectors while the Value has the plastic color coded ones.

Also technically I bought the below setup years ago, but I just powered it on now. Asus P4GPL-X (i915PL Socket 478) with Asus CT-479 adapter running a Pentium-M 730. I remember doing 12x166 = 2.0GHz easy, but it hit the wall around 2.2GHz. May buy a cheap Pentium-M to overclock. GPU is a HIS ATI X800 PCI-E (which looks remarkably similar to ATI_Loyalist's X850.

Tried just bumping it to 200MHz FSB? Had a 730 the CT-479/P4GD1 combo myself many years ago, the P4GPL-X are the cut down version. 😀 I remember also something about configuring the CT-479 to 100MHz FSB instead of 133MHz helped FSB overclocking.

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Reply 16429 of 47864, by yawetaG

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Microsoft Intellmiouse 1.3A, bought hoping it would be a 1.1A version combo mouse to use with an adapter, turned out to be a 1.3A PS/2 only.. 🙁

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Reply 16430 of 47864, by dexvx

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Kamerat wrote:

Tried just bumping it to 200MHz FSB? Had a 730 the CT-479/P4GD1 combo myself many years ago, the P4GPL-X are the cut down version. 😀 I remember also something about configuring the CT-479 to 100MHz FSB instead of 133MHz helped FSB overclocking.

Not recently. It's been years and I'm not sure what it's stable at. Alas, I got an Asus CUBX that I need to put together that takes priority.

The P4GPL-X and P4GD1 were not released in the US. Even overseas, they were relatively rare. Had my parents buy my P4GPL-X on a visit to China. They could not find a P4GD1.

Random threads of US people complaining:
http://www.overclock.net/t/51269/where-can-i- … y-an-asus-p4gd1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/archive/i … dex.php?t-77420.
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/asus-p4g … -pci-e.1582278/

Reply 16431 of 47864, by Batyra

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Just recieved... crazy great conditio... like new!

For the first look i thought (from the pictures from above) that it is some SCSI drive controller or somethign like that... When I recieved card it appears that it is a RAM expansion slot... Have you ever heard of CyberRam or Adlib Multimedia Connector? I cant find anything...

Please help guys...

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Reply 16432 of 47864, by Asomodai

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Batyra wrote:

Just recieved... crazy great conditio... like new!

For the first look i thought (from the pictures from above) that it is some SCSI drive controller or somethign like that... When I recieved card it appears that it is a RAM expansion slot... Have you ever heard of CyberRam or Adlib Multimedia Connector? I cant find anything...

Please help guys...

Pretty sure Cyberram was used for Audio card Ram upgrades.

Reply 16433 of 47864, by Batyra

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Asomodai wrote:
Batyra wrote:

Just recieved... crazy great conditio... like new!

For the first look i thought (from the pictures from above) that it is some SCSI drive controller or somethign like that... When I recieved card it appears that it is a RAM expansion slot... Have you ever heard of CyberRam or Adlib Multimedia Connector? I cant find anything...

Please help guys...

Pretty sure Cyberram was used for Audio card Ram upgrades.

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ok I've foud something like this... Have anyone of you seen it???

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Reply 16434 of 47864, by keropi

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^ cool/weird stuff but sadly really really really rare. Never knew they used this king of expansion for anything other than ram... isdn and modem option? surreal!
never saw this ram module before - or even the card itself 😐

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Reply 16435 of 47864, by cyclone3d

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There is a picture of that same card over in this thread.
A gallery of strange sound devices

Apparently the Adlib brand was bought out and the name/logo was used for a while on products such as that card.

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Reply 16436 of 47864, by cyclone3d

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Somebody posted an EXP Game Traveler (game port) pcmcia card on eBay for $5. MWAHAHAAHAHA. MINE!!!! 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁 😁

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Reply 16437 of 47864, by tikoellner

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Found this in the mail...

Here next to my LCS caching controller. Already can tell that Tekram seems far more advanced software-wise. Threw my favourite "topless" memory modules in Tekram 😀

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Reply 16438 of 47864, by brostenen

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Found this in the mail...

Here next to my LCS caching controller. Already can tell that Tekram seems far more advanced software-wise. Threw my favourite "topless" memory modules in Tekram 😀

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Wow!!! Those are nice looking. Congrats. 😀

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Reply 16439 of 47864, by tikoellner

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Thanks. I made some initial benchmarks and Tekram seems MUCH faster than LCS - at least when used with CF card.

Speedsys reports as follows:

TEKRAM:
Random access time: 0.77ms
Buffered read speed: 18216 KB/s
Linear verify speed: 310066 KB/s
Linear read speed: 2091 KB/s

LCS:
Random access time: 1.07 ms
Buffered read speed: 15073 KB/s
Linear verify speed: 74872 KB/s
Linear read speed: 1011 KB/s

I can't believe the results can vary to this extent. I did not change other components or settings.