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Reply 27120 of 45412, by dionb

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Ozzuneoj wrote:
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A cookie goes to anyone who can spot why I bought this lot.

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I see multiple reasons, but I assume it's the Sierra Aria sound card.

That said, the VLB (?) card next to it looks really interesting too

Reply 27121 of 45412, by Cyrix200+

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dionb wrote:
Ozzuneoj wrote:
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A cookie goes to anyone who can spot why I bought this lot.

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I see multiple reasons, but I assume it's the Sierra Aria sound card.

That said, the VLB (?) card next to it looks really interesting too

My guess also. I think the 'VLB card' are an ISA Diamond videocard and an unknown AGP card overlapping.

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Reply 27123 of 45412, by Cyrix200+

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Reply 27124 of 45412, by red_avatar

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Ozzuneoj wrote:
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A cookie goes to anyone who can spot why I bought this lot.

😀

You want to test which is more painful to walk on, Lego or graphics cards? 🤣

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IBM Aptiva 486SX33 - 8MB - 2GB CF - SB16
IBM PC350 P233MMX - 64MB - 32GB SSD - AWE64 - Voodoo2
PIII600 - 320MB - 480GB SSD - SB Live! - GF4 Ti 4200
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Reply 27125 of 45412, by God Of Gaming

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Found a Audigy 2 ZS notebook PCMCIA, for 10 euros shipped

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Tested it on my IBM Thinkpad T42p, sticks out a little bit but seems to work fine

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CD has only WDM drivers, so I guess it wont work on win98... I wonder what will happen if I force install the VXD driver from the desktop Audigy 2 ZS CD

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Reply 27127 of 45412, by cyclone3d

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God Of Gaming wrote:
Found a Audigy 2 ZS notebook PCMCIA, for 10 euros shipped […]
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Found a Audigy 2 ZS notebook PCMCIA, for 10 euros shipped

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Tested it on my IBM Thinkpad T42p, sticks out a little bit but seems to work fine

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CD has only WDM drivers, so I guess it wont work on win98... I wonder what will happen if I force install the VXD driver from the desktop Audigy 2 ZS CD

It won't work. I tried for a few hours to get the same card installed in Win98SE.

I even tried modifying the .inf file to include the ID for the PCMCIA card. It still didn't make it work.

I'm guessing it might be possible to get it working with some more in-depth hackery since it is supposed to be the same hardware as a regular Audigy 2 ZS.

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Reply 27128 of 45412, by red_avatar

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Finally managed to pick up an original SB Pro. Happy to have this card in my Sound Blaster Collection! […]
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Finally managed to pick up an original SB Pro. Happy to have this card in my Sound Blaster Collection!

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I'm curious but besides nostalgic reasons, is there any reason to get a Pro over a SB16 for old builds?

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Reply 27129 of 45412, by TheMobRules

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I'm curious but besides nostalgic reasons, is there any reason to get a Pro over a SB16 for old builds?

Certain people get annoyed by the "DMA clicking" issue of the SB16, although personally I don't even notice it. Others also claim the Pro is a "silent" card compared to the early SB16, but in my experience the Pro tends to pick up a lot of ISA bus noise and doesn't even allow you to disable the internal amplifier unlike the SB16.

Other than that, assuming the SB16 has a genuine OPL3 chip there should be no major difference.

Reply 27130 of 45412, by God Of Gaming

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cyclone3d wrote:

It won't work. I tried for a few hours to get the same card installed in Win98SE.

I even tried modifying the .inf file to include the ID for the PCMCIA card. It still didn't make it work.

I'm guessing it might be possible to get it working with some more in-depth hackery since it is supposed to be the same hardware as a regular Audigy 2 ZS.

I see, I thought that would be the case. Oh well, I have 98SE and Win2000 on this laptop, guess I will use this card for Win2000, and find some older PCMCIA card for 98SE like a Panasonic Sound Card Pro.

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Reply 27131 of 45412, by brostenen

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TheMobRules wrote:
red_avatar wrote:

I'm curious but besides nostalgic reasons, is there any reason to get a Pro over a SB16 for old builds?

Certain people get annoyed by the "DMA clicking" issue of the SB16, although personally I don't even notice it. Others also claim the Pro is a "silent" card compared to the early SB16, but in my experience the Pro tends to pick up a lot of ISA bus noise and doesn't even allow you to disable the internal amplifier unlike the SB16.

Other than that, assuming the SB16 has a genuine OPL3 chip there should be no major difference.

I have one of them Jazz16's, that do not pick up any ISA noise or noise from drives loading. And it has no DMA clicking noise. The specs are nearly identical to an SB-Pro card. Now, the bad part is that I have no idea what Jazz16 model it is.

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It is shown in my blog, as I used it, when building my dx33 machine.

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Reply 27132 of 45412, by Intel486dx33

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My Lian Li Aluminum cases arrived today.
Best packaging I has seen in a long time.
If you ask the shippers to package well they usually do.
I hate it when electronic arrive all broken up from shipping.
Such a waist of money and time. No one wins.

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Reply 27133 of 45412, by God Of Gaming

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brostenen wrote:
I have one of them Jazz16's, that do not pick up any ISA noise or noise from drives loading. And it has no DMA clicking noise. T […]
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TheMobRules wrote:
red_avatar wrote:

I'm curious but besides nostalgic reasons, is there any reason to get a Pro over a SB16 for old builds?

Certain people get annoyed by the "DMA clicking" issue of the SB16, although personally I don't even notice it. Others also claim the Pro is a "silent" card compared to the early SB16, but in my experience the Pro tends to pick up a lot of ISA bus noise and doesn't even allow you to disable the internal amplifier unlike the SB16.

Other than that, assuming the SB16 has a genuine OPL3 chip there should be no major difference.

I have one of them Jazz16's, that do not pick up any ISA noise or noise from drives loading. And it has no DMA clicking noise. The specs are nearly identical to an SB-Pro card. Now, the bad part is that I have no idea what Jazz16 model it is.

EDIT:
It is shown in my blog, as I used it, when building my dx33 machine.

Assuming one is able to obtain one of the early revision AWE32 cards that have real OPL3 chip, and using separate mpu401 intelligent mode card, is that the ideal, or is there still something that the sb 16 or pro 2 do better?

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Reply 27134 of 45412, by Ozzuneoj

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dionb wrote:
Ozzuneoj wrote:
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A cookie goes to anyone who can spot why I bought this lot.

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I see multiple reasons, but I assume it's the Sierra Aria sound card.

Correct sir. 😁

*hands you a cookie*

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 27136 of 45412, by Ozzuneoj

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dionb wrote:
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Correct sir. 😁

*hands you a cookie*

Om nom nom 😀

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By the way, I just grabbed these to go with it.

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Not too often that I find a listing for the original installation disks for a very rare sound card the week before I find the card itself. Might as well have them together. After selling off what I don't need\want from the other lot I'll likely have more than paid off the lot and the disks, and I'll have a nice card with disks for my meager collection. 😀

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 27137 of 45412, by Thermalwrong

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Today's haul is:

1. The only TFX power supply I've ever seen with -5v output, for 'projects'

2. Nvidia 6800GT AGP - Just like my old one, for my old Athlon PC from 2004/5 that I'm piecing back together. This goes with my Biostar M7NCG-400 motherboard and mobile barton 2500 with some Corsair XMS Pro LED memory, I'm so glad my friend gave me back these parts once he decided they were too old 😁
I actually had a few 6800GT cards back in the day, but this one has the right Galaxy cooler on it. The bearings are completely ruined, sounds terrible unless it's on its side, but it runs okay when the fan is face down. Now to test it! I just replaced the VRM thermal pads, cleaned the BGA ram and replaced the paste on the GPU, now to power it up, hopefully it works without artifacting?

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I've been finding so much good stuff lately, I need to find the time to put these things together 😀

Also not so retro, but I recently got a 3d printer, which is where alot of my time has gone lately, CAD is time consuming.

Reply 27138 of 45412, by rick6

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Thermalwrong wrote:

That's a lovely system and I like the cooling solution - a friend had something similar on his Athlon PC - very loud though aren't they?

I think it's a bit of a shame the power supply is also period correct, don't Q-tech have a really bad reputation? like that 500w value is max, and average load is lower?

You can adjust their speed with a potenciometer (one per each), and make them pretty silent. If you go for maximum speed, then they can get even louder than the previous coolers, but going after max speed is unnecessary.

As for the PSU...i don't know. Did Q-tech had a really bad reputation?
This is actually my power supply from my athlon XP all the way back to 2004 or 2005. At the moment it's the only power supply i own with decent amps on the 5V rail (35 amps, the motherboard manual says it requires 30 amps). That's the problem with socket A systems, they require too many amps from the 5V rail. Phill actually did a video about that a while ago!

My 2001 gaming beast in all it's "Pentium 4 Williamate" Glory!

Reply 27139 of 45412, by HanJammer

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Arrived in mail today… Philips PC works perfectly fine. HDD is full od private doc and xls files prior to 1996. All in german. It has interesting motherboard with 386SX CPU mounted on some external extension card. I'm going to pimp it up abit and sell it (I'm saving HDD and 5,25" floppy for myself though).

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Also this 286 mobo with TACT chipset is quite interesting I think…

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