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Reply 32701 of 53683, by mpe

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I wish it was that simple Most ISA/VL-Bus/EISA/MCA or any sort of bus from that era cards have LS245 bus transceivers everywhere 🙁

I found this and it looks like this model was actually made with EISA-like proprietary local bus:

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I think I will need to spent some on researching this before putting it into EISA motheboard...

moved discussion here - Pre-VESA Proprietary 32-bit Local Buses?

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Reply 32702 of 53683, by bjwil1991

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Bought an ASUS V6800 DDR 64MB AGP card. Seller has 1 left. I'd put the link on here, but, that's a big no.

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Reply 32703 of 53683, by appiah4

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I have the SDRAM version of the same card. Actually, I have the TVR version with VIVO.. Nica build quality overall.

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Reply 32704 of 53683, by bjwil1991

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I also have an SDR version (not ASUS brand) and it does work, but there is shadowing in the graphical images, excluding DOS (CLI) and the BIOS.

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Reply 32705 of 53683, by liqmat

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-02-27, 12:42:

Bought an ASUS V6800 DDR 64MB AGP card. Seller has 1 left. I'd put the link on here, but, that's a big no.

Wat? The link cyclone3d already posted?

cyclone3d wrote on 2020-02-26, 22:53:

Have an ASUS V6800 DDR 64MB (Geforce 256) on the way.

Seller has 3 left

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Reply 32707 of 53683, by derSammler

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Also this one. Anyone knows what graphics card this is? Seems to have a gameport - at least the port uses that color as defined by the ATX standard. Have not tested it yet.

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After some research, this seems to be an MPDD card by Village Tronic for the Mac and uses the Trident Blade3D chip. Wonder if it can be used in a PC...

Reply 32709 of 53683, by yawetaG

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derSammler wrote on 2020-02-27, 14:50:

Also this one. Anyone knows what graphics card this is? Seems to have a gameport - at least the port uses that color as defined by the ATX standard. Have not tested it yet.

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After some research, this seems to be an MPDD card by Village Tronic for the Mac and uses the Trident Blade3D chip. Wonder if it can be used in a PC...

The "game port" probably is for proprietary Apple monitors (ADB?).

Reply 32711 of 53683, by Stiletto

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liqmat wrote on 2020-02-27, 14:09:
bjwil1991 wrote on 2020-02-27, 12:42:

Bought an ASUS V6800 DDR 64MB AGP card. Seller has 1 left. I'd put the link on here, but, that's a big no.

Wat? The link cyclone3d already posted?

Links deleted, thanks for the head's up.

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Reply 32712 of 53683, by Turbo ->

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derSammler wrote on 2020-02-27, 17:21:

No "NOS" china fakes, but real used ones. 😀

I intend on buying some memory chips for ISA VGA Card, but I think they are, as you said, China fakes. However I don't have problem with that if they'll work. So my question, are China fakes any good or not?

Reply 32713 of 53683, by gex85

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Bought a Pentium 4 Northwood 3.06 GHz that arrived yesterday.
AFAIK, this was Intel's first CPU that featured the Hyperthreading technology. Its launch in Nov. 2002 was closely followed by the launch of the Xeon "Prestonia" Socket 604 family, also featuring the NetBurst architecture and Hyperthreading.

I got this one because it is the fastest CPU that will fit the Biostar P4TGE in my slightly accidental P4 build.
I already installed it and it works nicely - decreased the SuperPi 1M time from 1:07 to 0:58. I remember when anything below 1:00 was unbelievably fast, so it was great fun to see this machine do it in 0:58.
Looking forward to doing some more benchmarks tonight!

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Reply 32714 of 53683, by wiretap

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Turbo -> wrote on 2020-02-28, 07:08:
derSammler wrote on 2020-02-27, 17:21:

No "NOS" china fakes, but real used ones. 😀

I intend on buying some memory chips for ISA VGA Card, but I think they are, as you said, China fakes. However I don't have problem with that if they'll work. So my question, are China fakes any good or not?

No. From what I've encountered, many times they are just blank molds, i.e. solder trainer chips that they added the markings to. No electrical connections inside at all.

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Reply 32715 of 53683, by FazzaGBR

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Turbo -> wrote on 2020-02-28, 07:08:
derSammler wrote on 2020-02-27, 17:21:

No "NOS" china fakes, but real used ones. 😀

I intend on buying some memory chips for ISA VGA Card, but I think they are, as you said, China fakes. However I don't have problem with that if they'll work. So my question, are China fakes any good or not?

The fake ones are not counterfit ones that are working copies, but ones that are not real - should perhaps be described as dummy or blanks really rather than fake I guess.

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Reply 32716 of 53683, by mpe

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I recently ordered several sets of SRAM chips from different sellers. While I cannot guarantee they have advertised specs and many were DOA, most of them somehow worked. So definitely not dummy chips. But rather rejected batches or relabelled parts.

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Reply 32717 of 53683, by derSammler

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For SRAM chips it's true, they are normally working but don't have the speed they are labled with.

"Turbo ->" however is looking for DRAM. I've never bought DRAM chips from China, as there is no need to. These are readily available from (serious) sellers all around the world. My hint these days is simple anyway: avoid anything that says "NOS", then the chance of getting a faked chip is rather low.

Reply 32718 of 53683, by svfn

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Found a couple of these IDE mobile racks, always wanted one of these for my win98 build to fill out empty 5.25 bays, I guess you could plug a CF adapter inside too, but does anyone really have a use for these nowadays? A large storage drive for transfering CD images between builds perhaps.

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Also got a serial+USB Logitech Wingman Force Feedback, often referred to fondly as "old red", anyone owned this back in the day? What games did you play with it?

Kinda crazy how much it cost back then from some archive.org PC mags, some later wheels like Momo/DFGT still go for $40-60 here.

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Reply 32719 of 53683, by appiah4

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I got a QuickShot QS201 joystick in the mail today but it requires a thorough cleaning before I can present it. One of the finest Joystick Port joysticks of its time 😀

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