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Reply 33140 of 45905, by auron

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no hard proof for that, although the Classic/PCI document (april '93) that is on the net is named batman.pdf (of course, someone could have just renamed it). it also has a "BP5D60AT" codename on the first page where the B could be interpreted as batman i suppose? there's also a board schematic in there that shows a quadratic chip next to the RAM sockets, which seems to fit the picture i posted earlier. on the batman's revenge boards with VRM pads, that chip is at the edge near the pci slots instead.

as for the other bit, i interpreted that as if they are actually referring to the Classic/PCI there, as the manual for that is preliminary and that name might have been changed for that board's launch. for instance, it says that PCI IDE is not included, and the presumed batman board on the picture only has 1 IDE connector, and some unused pads for what looks like SCSI, while the batman's revenge always comes with 2 IDE ports. another way to tell would be to find out whether the batman's revenge boards with no VRM soldered on have a socket or not for the RTC; on my board with VRM, the RTC is not socketed.

Reply 33141 of 45905, by wirerogue

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asus p4t socket 423, pentium 4 1.4ghz & 256mb rdram.
anyone know what the deal is with the giant metal plate on the back?
the thing weights a ton.

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Reply 33144 of 45905, by bjwil1991

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I don't know what it is, but I dig those Socket 423 boards. I have one that has 768MB RDRAM (requires all 4 to be filled, or 2 filled with 2 terminators, much like SCSI cables requiring those termination ends to allow the drives to be recognized).

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Reply 33145 of 45905, by wirerogue

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did a little research.
the hsf retention mechanism is connected to the metal plate.
according to anandtech, it was part of a new atx 2.03 case spec where the hsf retention mechanism would mount directly to the case https://www.anandtech.com/show/764/3
the back plate is then optional if your case is not compliant with this new spec.
i've seen these 4 holes in a few cases (photo below) but, they are rotated 90 degrees and higher up.
it looks like asus just said f*** you guys, we'll put it wherever we want and make you use this giant plate instead.
so... not optional.

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Reply 33147 of 45905, by Vegge

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Very slow with purchases here.
Got this yesterday, slotket with p3 800. Slotkets are always good to have around.

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Then something wierd. I have a bookshelf in my computer-room, and just in passing I saw this and pulled it out. I have no idea when I got it or where. Can't remember it at all. Makes me wonder if I have other unknown treasures hiding in my room. 😁

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A nice Chaintech 486SPM. Support for, 3.3V CPUs, 128mb ram and 1024k cache. I have still to check if it works, my bench is full of other stuff atm. And it looks brand new, no signs of being mounted.

Reply 33149 of 45905, by H3nrik V!

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SilverHawk wrote on 2020-03-25, 21:59:

A package arrived for me today. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-23-Working-CP … =p2047675.l2557 Should keep me busy for awhile.

Very nice lot - a and veeeery nice price, too .. Congrats!

Please use the "quote" option if asking questions to what I write - it will really up the chances of me noticing 😀

Reply 33150 of 45905, by luckybob

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@wirerogue

Asus did this with several boards from that era. My XG-DLS has a similar plate, and its whole purpose in life is to properly mount the heatsinks for those 2 massive slot-2 heatsinks.

The plate is 100% required, unless you can get the proper stand-offs on your case to support the cpu heatsinks.

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 33151 of 45905, by EvieSigma

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SilverHawk wrote on 2020-03-25, 21:59:

A package arrived for me today. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-23-Working-CP … =p2047675.l2557 Should keep me busy for awhile.

That's a nice lot! Assuming you can find a Super Socket 7 board (hell, if you can't, I have one I'd part with if you don't mind AT), you can do a lot of fun experiments comparing your various Socket 7 CPUs.

Reply 33153 of 45905, by Artex

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vmr_ wrote on 2020-03-23, 22:09:

Will just go with this one, no words required to describe it 😀

WANT!! Nice score!

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Reply 33154 of 45905, by SilverHawk

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EvieSigma wrote on 2020-03-25, 22:35:
SilverHawk wrote on 2020-03-25, 21:59:

A package arrived for me today. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-23-Working-CP … =p2047675.l2557 Should keep me busy for awhile.

That's a nice lot! Assuming you can find a Super Socket 7 board (hell, if you can't, I have one I'd part with if you don't mind AT), you can do a lot of fun experiments comparing your various Socket 7 CPUs.

Thank you, I feel lucky getting this lot. The Shuttle Hot-569 was the closest I ever got to owning an SS7 board. No 100Mhz front side, but I was able to get a decent overclock on my Pentium 200. My brother had FIC VA-503 board, but I never made the jump as I had paid a premium for the 569. I saved my pennies before ultimately getting on the AMD bandwagon with Socket A. Good times!

Thanks for the offer on the SS7! For now, I have a couple of Socket 7 boards to play with. An Asus VX97 machine I saved from the scrap pile and I dug out the motherboard from the first machine I built. A PCChips M575 with the "TXPro" chipset. That said, don't be surprised if you get a PM from me. 😀

Reply 33155 of 45905, by vmr_

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Artex wrote on 2020-03-25, 23:51:
vmr_ wrote on 2020-03-23, 22:09:

Will just go with this one, no words required to describe it 😀

WANT!! Nice score!

This one deserves a place on any respectable WTB list. Took me nearly 2 years to find it 😀

btw, nice collection you have

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S8 & PPro 200 | SS7 FW 5VGF & Asus P5A & AOpen AX59PRO K6-III+ 550MHz
Slot A Asus K7M Athlon 1Ghz GDF | Slot 1 Pentium III 1GHz SL4KL...

Reply 33156 of 45905, by EvieSigma

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I got two computers in yesterday but didn't get a chance to take pictures of them until today. I posted about them in here before but I figure people would like pics! The Compaq Presario 850 turned out to be a 486DX2-50 just like I expected, and just like I feared the power supply is stone dead. Probing a 4pin Molex drive connector resulted in 0.00V on both the 5V and 12V lines. And this is a weird proprietary PSU with non-standard AT power connectors so I guess I have to attempt to fix it...

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Reply 33157 of 45905, by EvieSigma

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I also got the eMachines eTower 366c in the same day, this one's a much happier story. Booted right up the first try without any issue, aside from a dead CMOS battery. I just need to throw in a hard drive and install an OS.

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Reply 33158 of 45905, by mastergamma12

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EvieSigma wrote on 2020-03-26, 22:23:
I also got the eMachines eTower 366c in the same day, this one's a much happier story. Booted right up the first try without any […]
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I also got the eMachines eTower 366c in the same day, this one's a much happier story. Booted right up the first try without any issue, aside from a dead CMOS battery. I just need to throw in a hard drive and install an OS.

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Nice to see a Cyrix rig.

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Reply 33159 of 45905, by EvieSigma

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mastergamma12 wrote on 2020-03-27, 00:17:
EvieSigma wrote on 2020-03-26, 22:23:
I also got the eMachines eTower 366c in the same day, this one's a much happier story. Booted right up the first try without any […]
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I also got the eMachines eTower 366c in the same day, this one's a much happier story. Booted right up the first try without any issue, aside from a dead CMOS battery. I just need to throw in a hard drive and install an OS.

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Nice to see a Cyrix rig.

Believe it or not, this is the first time I've been able to find a full Cyrix system that wasn't being sold by an overly optimistic eBay seller with a $200 price tag.