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Reply 28400 of 52818, by appiah4

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Both ISA sound cards have genuine Yamaha OPL3, the former due to having cloned Yamaha chips on board but being an ALS007 chipset card it may have filtering and noise issues (most cheap OEM cards using this chipset do), and the latter due to having a yamaha chipset, YMF-71X. Both cards have wavetable daughterboard haders and the ALS card has IDE connectors as well. Overall, they are pretty good cards to have; especially the ALS007 due to being one of the few chipsets that are SB16 compatible - so it is probably the most bugfree SB16 (clone) you can find around.

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Reply 28401 of 52818, by retropol

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appiah4, thanks for valuable comment. Hope I will be able to build something interesting from all this stuff, goal is to recreate 2 machines from my times...

- 486dx2 66 - it was about 1993-94
- pentium 200mmx - it was somewhere 97-98

especially 486dx2 was magic... jumped from commodore world into pc world (escom pc).

Reply 28402 of 52818, by liqmat

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retropol wrote:

especially 486dx2 was magic... jumped from commodore world into pc world (escom pc).

I think a lot of us Amiga freaks jumped to PC around the time we saw Doom and knew Commodore was headed in no direction at all. I jumped in with a 486 DX-33. Never looked back, but I will never forget the butterflies in my stomach when I first turned on my Amiga 1000 back in 1985. It had its time.

Reply 28403 of 52818, by Predator99

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Won this auction for 5.50 € incl. shipment (sellers photo)

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Not really interested in these modern PS/2 RAMs, but I spotted some 30 Pins inside which are rather hard to get for a good price.

And indeed, I received about 10 of them along with these 2:

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These are 16MBs 😎 Dont know where to use 2 as you ususally need 4 but maybe I have a Soundcard which accepts them...

Reply 28404 of 52818, by rikukos

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jheronimus wrote:

rikukos Great machine!

Thanks buddy!

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Maybe a Rendition Verite card would be nice for this puppy.

Hey, what a nice idea - Verite didn't even come to my mind. Now if I only had something Verite based..found this one at the top of the pile which I could sacrifice 🤣

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Reply 28405 of 52818, by dirkmirk

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kixs wrote:
Some quick test I've done between PPro 200MHz 1MB cache and socket 8 Overdrive P-II 333MHz. […]
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Some quick test I've done between PPro 200MHz 1MB cache and socket 8 Overdrive P-II 333MHz.

DOOM:
PPro... 1070 realtics
P-II... 931 realtics

CPUmark32:
PPro... 23
P-II... 27.3

But these are all 32-bit programs 😲

I don't think I used FastVid on any test. Might redo tests on this behalf 🤣

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Pentium(PRO) 2 Overdrive 333 BEAST

Results ive seen.

Despite the 60% increase in clock speed + full speed 512kb level 2 cache you dont gain as much with the overdrive 333, this was tested with a motherboard that doesnt have memory timing settings so that could be holding it back.

Reply 28406 of 52818, by luckybob

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@kixs

Try swapping to a video card that supports USWC, and make sure its enabled in the bios. You will like the results.

Here's why: The Ultimate 686 Benchmark Comparison

It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes.

Reply 28407 of 52818, by Intel486dx33

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Predator99 wrote:
Won this auction for 5.50 € incl. shipment (sellers photo) […]
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Won this auction for 5.50 € incl. shipment (sellers photo)

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Not really interested in these modern PS/2 RAMs, but I spotted some 30 Pins inside which are rather hard to get for a good price.

And indeed, I received about 10 of them along with these 2:

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These are 16MBs 😎 Dont know where to use 2 as you ususally need 4 but maybe I have a Soundcard which accepts them...

I am sad because I have lost my bag full of 30 SIMMs. They are somewhere in my mess of a garage.
So now I have to buy new ones.
8mb. is really all you need ( 2 x 4mb. sticks ).
16gb. = ( 4 x 4mb. sticks ).

Reply 28408 of 52818, by mothergoose729

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I bit on a listing for 2 untested 754 boards a while back. One board had 256mb of memory with a sempron, and another had 1gb of DDR with what was listed as a 3200+. Neither board would post, so I threw out the motherboards and kept the 3200+ and memory for a rainy day. Sometime later, I bought an Asus 754 board with a 3000+ on ebay. It was the model clocked at 2.0ghz with 512kb of l2 cache. It worked great and I have been using it ever sense.

Today I want into my garage to grab the 3200+ I got with the busted motherboards. I was hoping to get the 2.0ghz model with 1mb of l2 cache. Looking at the model number I saw a 3400 instead of a 3200. Excited I googled the model, and it's an athlon 64 3400+ with 1mb l2 cache! The second fasted CPU released for the socket! These CPUs usually go for about 50$, so suddenly what looked like a complete bust turned into a pretty decent score. I have it clocked at 2.3ghz right now and it is looking pretty stable, not to bad at all!

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Reply 28409 of 52818, by SpectriaForce

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rikukos wrote:
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jheronimus wrote:

rikukos Great machine!

Thanks buddy!

SpectriaForce wrote:

Maybe a Rendition Verite card would be nice for this puppy.

Hey, what a nice idea - Verite didn't even come to my mind. Now if I only had something Verite based..found this one at the top of the pile which I could sacrifice 🤣

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Another 'alternative' card would be a Voodoo Rush. Try to create something different. So many people over here already have a Voodoo2 setup.

Reply 28410 of 52818, by c0keb0ttle

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I've been looking for one of these for years!

Finally found one locally, and it's now all mine, and at a decent price too!

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Reply 28411 of 52818, by arncht

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how good is it compared to the mt32? does it work with the sc55 in daisy chain?

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Reply 28412 of 52818, by Daniël Oosterhuis

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Went to a fleamarket this morning, saw somebody selling some computer parts and a NVIDIA card caught my eyes. Yes, it was a FX 4500 as I thought! Snatched it for €5, went home, and flashed it with a PowerPC ROM. Now my PowerMac G5 Quad has a nice upgrade over the GeForce 6600 it came with 😎

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Reply 28413 of 52818, by cyclone3d

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SpectriaForce wrote:

Another 'alternative' card would be a Voodoo Rush. Try to create something different. So many people over here already have a Voodoo2 setup.

I bought a Voodoo Rush back when they were still being sold in stores. I returned it 2 days later and got a Banshee instead because the Rush was so slow.

A Rush is about the same speed as a Voodoo 1. The Banshee is about the same speed as a Voodoo 2.

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Reply 28414 of 52818, by cyclone3d

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arncht wrote:

how good is it compared to the mt32? does it work with the sc55 in daisy chain?

It is the same as an MT-32 new version. Yes you can daisy-chain. The MPU-401 port is also an intelligent mode port so you could hook up another MT-32 or MT-100 to it.

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Yamaha XG repository
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Aopen AW744L II SB-LINK

Reply 28415 of 52818, by yawetaG

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Also went to the King's Day flea markets, skipped a Thrust vintage joystick and various older (but very common) hardware, and then, just as I was starting to wonder whether there was anything really interesting, I walked past a stall that had a Roland keyboard sitting there. Glanced at it, thought "Nah, can't be for sale, probably the kids will start playing on it later", walked on, then went back and still asked "That keyboard probably isn't for sale, right?".

Result: 1 working Roland JV-35 Expandable Synthesizer with power supply for 40 Euro... talk about a score. 😎

The JV-35 is something of a Super Sound Canvas:
- GM/GS-compatible sound set using the JV-80 synth engine and a 61-key velocity-sensitive keybed with aftertouch,
- limited edit from the synth itself but many more parameters via sysex,
- quite nice master keyboard setup options (such as keyboard split, dual mode, fattening up the sound by layering octave-shifted sounds, etc.),
- plus an expansion slot on the bottom for one expansion board, with choice of doubling the GM/GS capacities for extra fat sound, or gaining the JV-80/90/1000 sound set and parameter edit(!), depending on the expansion board used. I've ordered the second expansion board now, too. 😀

Getting the thing back home by bike was somewhat of a pain though. 😵

So, in 2017 I got a 1980s Yamaha PSR. 2019 brings me a semi-pro synth. 2021 = ???

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Reply 28416 of 52818, by c0keb0ttle

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arncht wrote:

how good is it compared to the mt32? does it work with the sc55 in daisy chain?

It's basically an MT-32 on an ISA card. It's exactly the same sound-wise.

I haven't tried hooking up an SC-55 to the MPU port yet.

Reply 28417 of 52818, by Bige4u

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My VooDoo AGP versions collection is now complete!

Voodoo3 2000 / Voodoo3 3000 / Voodoo4 4500 / Voodoo5 5500

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Reply 28418 of 52818, by bjwil1991

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Bought the following from 4/26-4/27:

Gravis Blackhawk (not digital)
Sega Genesis Model 1 High Definition Graphics model

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4.1 Surround speakers (complete in box)

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The Genesis needed some TLC to get the system to load cartridges, and fortunately, no broken pins and everything is still good. Might do a recap sometime soon, and I had to buy a power adapter and AV cable to test it to make sure it turns on and it does indeed work.

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Reply 28419 of 52818, by liqmat

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bjwil1991 wrote:

The Genesis needed some TLC to get the system to load cartridges, and fortunately, no broken pins and everything is still good. Might do a recap sometime soon, and I had to buy a power adapter and AV cable to test it to make sure it turns on and it does indeed work.

I used to have a large collection of titles for the Genesis. The rare ones went to a museum and the rest I sold off. One of my favorite titles for the console is this and I highly recommend it. Especially two player is a lot of fun. Pounding soundtrack as well.

https://youtu.be/GRV8jwEfUrs

The biggest weakness of the model 1 is the cart slot.