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HanJammer wrote on 2024-05-26, 21:09:

A few oddities found on a local flee market (likely sourced from e-recycler but in great condition... and price 😳 ) and a few donated to me by my friend.

Nice score!

Sound card is the Anchor Electronics - Media Concept 2.0 Sound card. Should have FCC ID J5QMF-002 (Princeton Tech Corp) on the back. Useful thread on this card - Anchor Electronics - Media Concept 2.0 Souncard - SB 2.0 clone with real OPL2

Trashbytes wrote on 2024-05-27, 07:11:

PcBytes wrote on 2024-05-27, 06:54:

B2, already recapped it with 2008 Nichicon HMs and no change. Mine didn't have any bulged Teapo caps prior to recap, though.

hmm odd, Im guessing you already reflashed the bios too, shame if it is dead they really are great boards.

Yup, I can technically say it's pretty much gone. Replaced even the 100uF 16v small TEAPOs with polymers off an ASUS P5QL Pro, as well as the Y2 crystal quartz near the CPU. No beeps or even a form of POST.

I got this 13 pc's today. No sleep till check it all.

to3cutter wrote on 2024-05-29, 22:14:

I got this 13 pc's today. No sleep till check it all.

Let us know what was inside! Nice purchase 😀

I got 7 PCs Tuesday, and by far nothing interesting... apart from a FlexATX-sized ECS P6STP-FL with... a VIA C3 800A.
Rest of the haul was a whole lotta AGP cards (MX440s, a 4000, S3 Savage4, FX5500, 5200 and I think a 9250), 2x Genius CMI8738 PCI cards, 3x Seagate Constellation ES 500GB SAS drives (ain't too retro but hey, I love me some SATA SCSI.), and a SB Live 5.1 Digital SB0220 (neat... I don't think I've seen a 5.1 Digital.)

Anyone got any idea what performance am I to expect from a Ezra C3 800A? This is a whole new territory to me.

to3cutter wrote on 2024-05-29, 22:14:

I got this 13 pc's today. No sleep till check it all.

Nice haul! Mostly beige boxes too, so there could be some interesting 90s hardware in them.

to3cutter wrote on 2024-05-29, 22:14:

I got this 13 pc's today. No sleep till check it all.

Nice lot! I expect the obligatory picture of all of the sound and video cards pulled from the computers. IMO, that is always the most interesting part. 😁

Also, the ASUS card in that uncovered desktop looks like an ASUS v2740tv, which is an Intel i740 AGP card. I haven't seen one of those myself. Neat looking card. 😀

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2024-05-29, 23:17:

to3cutter wrote on 2024-05-29, 22:14:

I got this 13 pc's today. No sleep till check it all.

Nice lot! I expect the obligatory picture of all of the sound and video cards pulled from the computers. IMO, that is always the most interesting part. 😁

Also, the ASUS card in that uncovered desktop looks like an ASUS v2740tv, which is an Intel i740 AGP card. I haven't seen one of those myself. Neat looking card. 😀

Sir you got an eagle eye! Yes its an ASUS v2740TV and it was my biggest disappointment, I was hoping it will be V6600 or V3200. There is no VGA cards worth mention,
found 1 AMD DX4-100 and few SLOT 1 machines. Also found ATI AIW 128 PRO AGP. I will disassemble 1 machine every day, and I'm already few days ahead 🤣

PcBytes wrote on 2024-05-29, 23:03:

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Anyone got any idea what performance am I to expect from a Ezra C3 800A? This is a whole new territory to me.

Ezra C3 800A? Should be somewhere in P III 450 territory, I would think.
Normally the biggest advantage of the VIA CPUs is the ability to have easy options to slow them down for older games.
Also they don't pull as much power so they are easier to cool and to keep a system quiet.
Just be aware that many older socket 370 boards don't know them and would either not work with them or not use their full capabilities.
Sometimes this can be remedied with a bios update.

I had an mITX Ezra 800MHz board and in my experience a 450MHz P3 is actually significantly faster than the Ezra 800 in everything but simple integer math. Ezra 800 is about as slow as a PII-333 in Quake for example - its FPU is exceptionally slow. Overall, I'd say it is probably around a PII350-400 around speeds..

Frend of mine was cleaning his house and want to throw this gem away. I get there right on time 😉😁

to3cutter wrote on 2024-05-30, 12:51:

Frend of mine was cleaning his house and want to throw this gem away. I get there right on time 😉😁

Friends are everything!
Post benchmarks if you are gonna do 'em.

Nexxen wrote on 2024-05-30, 12:55:

to3cutter wrote on 2024-05-30, 12:51:

Frend of mine was cleaning his house and want to throw this gem away. I get there right on time 😉😁

Friends are everything!
Post benchmarks if you are gonna do 'em.

Can I use AGP 4x/8x VGA in that AGP pro slot?

Yes. AGP Pro is based off AGP4x. That's how I managed to run a HD3450 on a ASUS CUSL2.

appiah4 wrote on 2024-05-30, 07:08:

I had an mITX Ezra 800MHz board and in my experience a 450MHz P3 is actually significantly faster than the Ezra 800 in everything but simple integer math. Ezra 800 is about as slow as a PII-333 in Quake for example - its FPU is exceptionally slow. Overall, I'd say it is probably around a PII350-400 around speeds..

Ooops, I probably mixed the C3 Ezra with the C7 Nehemiah. I remembered benchmarks, where the C7 at 1.000 MHz was running approx. like a P III 600 and just interpolated from there.
But the C7 is an improved version of the C3 and therefore not directly comparable.
BTW, a C3 Samuel II 533 performs in the range of a Pentium 233MMX or Pentium II 233.

to3cutter wrote on 2024-05-30, 12:51:

Frend of mine was cleaning his house and want to throw this gem away. I get there right on time 😉😁

Wow! Better tell that friend to call you before throwing anything out another time, or you won't be friends no more 🤣 But until then, it seems to be a good friend to keep, having such a cool board around 😎

to3cutter wrote on 2024-05-29, 22:14:

I got this 13 pc's today. No sleep till check it all.

PcBytes wrote on 2024-05-29, 23:03:

I got 7 PCs Tuesday, and by far nothing interesting... apart from a FlexATX-sized ECS P6STP-FL with... a VIA C3 800A.

some high volume collecting happening, i like it! hope to see some more detail as you work through them

'ight, since you quoted me, I figured I'd reveal the cards first. I'll put up the mainboards later tonight (hopefully).

Top:

• Inno3d FX 5500 128MB
• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• Palit TNT2 M64 32MB (that golden PCB lookin' sweet 😀 )
• Supergrace S3 Trio 3D/2X AGP
• Sparkle GF4 MX440-8X 64MB
• ATI Rage LT Pro AGP

Middle:

• Genius CMI 8738 PCI soundcard
• "ST Labs" Geforce 2 MX
• Sapphire Radeon 9250
• Powercolor S3 Trio 3D AGP
• Dell OEM adapter - laptop IDE format to standard PATA
• a few I/O shields

Bottom row:

• unknown MX440-8X w/ DVI
• PCChips ATX form card w/o cable
• ASUS USB/MIR form card
• Sparkle 8400GS Rev II 512MB (needs a HSF 😀 )
• Sparkle GF4 MX4000
• PCChips ATX form card w/ cable
• "MS" Radeon X300SE
• ALi M5273 USB card
• Diamond Multimedia S3 Savage 4 SDRAM
• Winfast A340 128MB - FX5200
• Sound Blaster Live 5.1 Digital SB0220

EDIT:

• ASUS P5B-VM + C2D E4400
• MSI GF615M-P33 + some AM3 Sempron
• ASUS M4N68T-M + Athlon II X2 250
• ECS P6STP-FL + VIA C3 "Ezra" 800A

I'm planning a cooler chain transplant.
The XFX 8800GTX in the top left corner does not work. The 8800GTX with the zalman works but will receive the XFX cooler. The zalman should be compatible with the Quadro Fx1000 and should (hopefully) allow me to mod it into a GeForce FX5800 Ultra (memory is rated for ultra freqs and i will add the small dissipators from the box next to it).

Below are 4 cards i received recently too
A Voodoo Rush (with the less common Macronix 2d chip). A 6MB Voodoo 1. A regular Voodoo 1. An S3 Virge.

Unfortunately the regular Voodoo 1 does not work and the Rush only works in 2d. There are missing SMDs that i replaced but nothing changed.

The 6MB Voodoo and the Virge works ok.