Your current hardware setup is good already. I think you should write a song about your personal loss and upload the performance of it to YouTube.

Just found this thread: CPU limited

Seems like I have my answers there on cpu scaling anyway.

Are a pair of V2s or even a single v2 enough for ALL windows glide games?

Enough is subjective. If by enough, you mean the game runs well enough to be fun, then I think that a single Voodoo2 is sufficient for all Glide games. Others' opinions may differ.

Well, let's change "enough" to "good enough to get smooth gameplay with at least 800x600 if not 1024x768 through the later, more intensive glide-only games" where smooth = 30fps minimum average with little dip below that. I'm good with 30fps in older games.

Sounds a bit needy, I know, but gotta have a benchmark to aim for I guess.

Then one Voodoo2 is enough.

Guess so then. Most of the games were targeted at the v2 anyway. The v3 was just a speed/memory bump aimed at the same games and the v5 was a grab at a new architecture but too late. When thinking about Glide I tend to think of the voodoo 2 anyway. Those ads back in 96-97 had a memorable impact on my 15 year old self.

Would a wrapper be quick enough ?

I've never used a wrapper, so I've no clue how it'll run on that machine with a Geforce4. It's an option I guess?

My guess is a Voodoo 5500 will show up at your doorstep in about 3-4 weeks time...

I have a couple of 933 MHz Pentium III machines, one with V5 5500 and one with GeForce 4 TI 4200. Running a program like Red Baron 3D I get 60-80 fps on the V5 with Glide and about 20-30 fps with a Glide wrapper (I forget which I tested) on the GeForce 4.

akula65 wrote:

... Running a program like Red Baron 3D I get 60-80 fps on the V5 with Glide and about 20-30 fps with a Glide wrapper...

Is this under W98se? No glide wrapper I've tried works under W9x and I'd like to test one out..

That sucks, I was pretty lucky to have gotten mine back in 2010 for like $9 but lost it in a house fire. Those VSA cards pretty much smoke any V2/V3 solution but a V3 is enough to run most games at decent settings except for a few that just don't run.

This is why when I'm expecting something rare I track it and then go right to the post office as soon as tracking says the package is there. I try to minimize the chances on anything that took me years to find getting lost, stolen or damaged.

Yes, both machines run Win98 SE.

dgVoodoo (the original, not dgVoodoo 2) and OpenGLide are two of the wrappers that work under Win98SE:

http://dege.freeweb.hu/
OpenGLide General

You can get special OpenGLide builds for Red Baron 3D:

http://www.wingsofhonour.com/downloads/resour … rappers.en.html

Are Voodoo 5's really that hard to get these days? I know the Amiga guys were snagging the PCI versions for crazy money years back for their PPC/PCI rigs but I didn't see that much interest in the AGP models.

My V5500 is back in its box (got it new for a P3-733 system when it came out at bestbuy), but I still use the V1/2/3 in systems. I also was lucky in finding a 4500 in a scrap system I got for free (PCI).

akula65 wrote:

Yes, both machines run Win98 SE.

Thanks, looks like I need to re-test since I thought I'd tried both those before. I recently built a hopped up P4 Prescott/XP/W98se/7900GTX-512mb rig and want to try out glide wrappers under W98 - I just need to keep up at it..

Unknown_K wrote:

Are Voodoo 5's really that hard to get these days? I know the Amiga guys were snagging the PCI versions for crazy money years back for their PPC/PCI rigs but I didn't see that much interest in the AGP models.

My V5500 is back in its box (got it new for a P3-733 system when it came out at bestbuy), but I still use the V1/2/3 in systems. I also was lucky in finding a 4500 in a scrap system I got for free (PCI).

Yes the demand is that high while pci models have mostly dried up except for the older V1 and V2. The cards that they were paying the high premiums on were the pci v3 2k and 3k cards usually the ones with the sgram. I haven't seen any vsa era cards being used in Amigas thus far. Demand skyrocketed back in 2010 when a V56k hit eBay and sold for $1800 only for another that year to a year later selling for 3000 euros.

tincup wrote:

Thanks, looks like I need to re-test since I thought I'd tried both those before. I recently built a hopped up P4 Prescott/XP/W98se/7900GTX-512mb rig and want to try out glide wrappers under W98 - I just need to keep up at it..

This page enumerates many of the Glide Wrapper projects:

http://www.glideunderground.com/modules.php?o … owcontent&id=89

For particular games you may find that there are special wrapper builds or established procedures to get the best results, so it definitely pays to do research rather than just trying to rely on one wrapper that has the "best" compatibility.

Yeah thanks - I used to use OpenGlide v074 and Zeckensack optimized for Red Baron 3D in the XP days instance. I settled on DGVoodoo 1.5 beta as my everyday wrapper though recently I've found nGlide to be very good under W7-64. But I didn't realize that earlier versions og DGV [up to 1.31 per the link] supported W98 and I'm eager to revisit them again.