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First post, by King_Corduroy

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Hello, I'm pretty new here (registered today) so I'm not sure if I have posted this in the right place but my problem is this:
I am building a Win98 PC from an old Pentium 4 1.8 ghz Sony Vaio. So far everything has gone well, windows 98SE installed perfectly and the graphics card was a Nvidia TNT2 so I had no issues there, however the onboard Audio is XP only drivers and as such will not install on win98. So I went on Ebay and purchased an old SoundBlaster Live! card since when I was younger I remember Creative Soundblaster cards sounded really good. However this soundcard did not come with the Driver discs and so I found the Discs you provide.
The drivers don't appear to work however and I am still without audio, I have searched and searched and I can't find drivers for this card anywhere! Please Help!
The card is a SoundBlaster Live! Model : SB0200, it is the type that has the orange joystick/midi input port.

Please help. I really want to get this rig working so I can have a snappy Windows 98 and run some older windows games.
(Such as Mechwarriors 2 and Bladerunner, which just wont run without being garbled)

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Reply 1 of 16, by King_Corduroy

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Never mind! Haha! It works!!!!
OK for anyone else who finds this, please go here and download this zip. Turns out this card is the OEM version and as such needs the OEM drivers!
http://rhinobhs.tripod.com/sb0200.html <<< Drivers be here. 🤣

Wooot! Can't believe it worked! 😁

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Reply 3 of 16, by mr_bigmouth_502

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Did you manage to get it to work in DOS? I've always had problems getting sound in DOS games on newer (Pentium 4/Athlon 64 era) systems running 98 with PCI sound cards.

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Reply 5 of 16, by King_Corduroy

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Well it sounds pretty good despite the fact that it is the OEM version. So I am quite happy, I've been playing Starship Titanic by Douglas Adams since I put it in. I never realised Point and clicks could be so engrossing. 😁

@mr_bigmouth_502 I haven't tried it in pure DOS mode yet, but I suppose I could test that easily enough by installing Blood or some other DOS era game. Probably Earth 2140 since that has a sound check during setup.
It would be a bummer for sure if it didn't work since most of the games I want to play require DOS.

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Reply 6 of 16, by mr_bigmouth_502

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Warcraft II has a pretty nice sound test in its installer. The one for Descent is pretty cool as well since it can test the left and right audio channels independently.

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Reply 8 of 16, by King_Corduroy

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Cool beans. Also make sure you have the CD to card cable, I couldn't get Earth 2140 to start because of "no CD audio detected!". Works now though, also sound stuttering has been fixed. (Had to enable DMA on the HDD)

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Reply 10 of 16, by King_Corduroy

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Actually I just tested it and it doesn't start now because of issues detecting the sound card. 😒
Well I thought it was fixed! It detects it in the setup but when I run the game it crashes because of the sound card. I will try those DOS drivers and see if that helps.

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Reply 11 of 16, by King_Corduroy

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No luck so far... I see that others are experiencing the same issues though so I don't think this is a quick fix.

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Reply 12 of 16, by maximus

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I just went through this whole driver mess with a SB0200. My advice would be to throw it out and get a SB0060. That's the retail version of the Sound Blaster Live! 5.1, which Creative actually supports to some degree. The official drivers work, in any case.

Another good choice would be a Sound Blaster PCI 128. Not nearly as nice as the Live! 5.1, but the drivers are pretty bulletproof. Good luck!

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Reply 14 of 16, by King_Corduroy

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Darn, I just bought this too. :'( (Cost 5 bucks 😜 So not a huge deal at least it sounds decent for windows games.)
Oh well live and learn right? Now I know what to look for, thanks guys. I will probably buy the PCI 128 since thats what my father used on our first PC (Which I threw away in a moment of stupidity 4 years ago. So I still have the drivers for it, are there any funky things about the 128 I should know about? Any OEM versions or funky versions like the Live seems to have? (I mean there are like 20 different types of Live! card! What the heck? 🤣)

I am just glad I didn't do this back in the 90's haha. I would hate to have payed 150$ bucks for it (Just guessing) and then run into all of these problems. 🤣

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Reply 15 of 16, by Nahkri

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Logistics wrote:

Pretty sure it still has an EMU10K so he may be able to try kX drivers as well.

I don't think it's the same chip.
Quote from wikipedia:
This card, marketed as a Sound Blaster Live!, did not have the full capabilities of the retail versions of Live! It used a different audio chip, not EMU10K1 but EMU10K1X, that is noticeably smaller with fewer pins. The chip does not accelerate DirectSound in hardware, nor EAX. The sale of this board by Dell created some controversy because it was not obviously marketed as an inferior or cheaper product. The card can be identified by its part number (SB0200/0203)

Reply 16 of 16, by keropi

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wow, never new about that 10K1 and 10K1X difference... thanks 😉

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