Socket 7 is usually AGP1x(/2x) at 3.3Volt.

Isn't the Radeon 9800 an AGP4x/8x card at 1.5V? I don't think it supports 3.3V.

Well apparently he has a 9800 with 3.3v support.

But anyway, Super 7 AGP (VIA and ALI) usually only works fully stable with 3dfx AGP cards .

Man 😁 I explained it runs, but it gets stuck under mentioned circumstances. Thus the card had to fit and had to work 😉

BTW, this is Her Majesty:

It has an external power supply connector, it's an AGP universal, thus no power issues. I know pretty sure it's the Chipset / VGA / Driver incompatibility issue. Anybody played with such technologically imbalanced hardware?

Yeah usually the AGP support of those Super 7 boards isn't stable unless you stick to 3dfx cards. 3dfx cards use minimal AGP features.

I have a Quadro2 Pro running on an Alladin V and it is perfectly stable. But if you played already with all AGP options then you probably have to try a different card.

Try setting agp aperture size to 4 mb in the bios, that should do the trick. If not set agp speed at 1x as well.

swaaye wrote:

Yeah usually the AGP support of those Super 7 boards isn't stable unless you stick to 3dfx cards. 3dfx cards use minimal AGP features.

I also haven't had any issues with Matrox and various Nvidia cards (mostly cheap M64 cards).

But in general that cards is mismatch for this motherboard / CPU. A Rage 128 or Radeon 7000 is more aproriate.

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

I also haven't had any issues with Matrox and various Nvidia cards (mostly cheap M64 cards).

I have an ASUS P5A and have had problems with Matrox G200. I haven't used the mobo in years so I can't remember more instability examples. But you can run a web search and find problems with almost any card in conjunction with those Super 7 chipsets. Same with Slot A and early Socket A stuff. Some video drivers even force AGP 1x on these boards but it isn't always enough to get things stable.

i would consider your experience perfectly normal.
the early ali agp chipsets actually had pretty bad agp support, even worse than the mvp3. it was so bad that nvidia drivers would purposefully disable agp mode whenever it sees an ali chipset, to avoid all kinds of trouble. i tried to force agp mode on through registry, but then it simply gives a lot of bsod.
for ati cards, i tried the rage128pro and radeon7200. the rage128pro seemed to work anyway, but the r7200 only worked with one old version of driver(before the catalyst series) out of the several i tried, all other drivers simply gives bsod after reboot. for the working version, it said agp mode was on but the performance was inferior to when running on the mvp3.
the mvp3 on the other hand, despite having a bad reputation in its days, actually worked quite well once you got 4in1 installed. agp features are on, and performance is more satisfying.

How clean is the 5v/12v power from your PSU? I bet that's what's casuing your crashing... The higher the power demand you place on your system, the more the effects of aging/failed capacitors will manifest... If you're using IWILL, you might consider re-capping it because I'm pretty sure they used off-brand capacitors. The ASUS P5A/-B doesn't need re-capping. Which PSU are you using?

Sorry for the delay guys, had work-related trainings, didn't have time for myself.

Just a quick update - Managed to get it working stable - the issue was that I needed to layer the DX7 to DX8.1 and finish with the latest working DX9 for win98SE. That got me stable at Kingpin only, which is actually an openGL, but anyways, it was affected by my deeds, thus I think I got it resolved. STILL - I need to play with the Ali AGP driver, I left it untouched. At least it is stable (and very smooth actually). Will get back to you, but I don't know when 🙁 . My apologies for the inconvenience.

While playing around with S478 systems there are issues with Voodoo 2 cards and Matrox cards. Something locking up / slowing down the driver.

I will now use Nvidia AGP cards in combination with Voodoo 2 cards because of this 😀

I must have been lucky with VIA AGP, never had any problems that I'm aware of. I'm not sure the old problems even matter as much, since I picked up an Asus P3V4X which had what looks like a bad history of AGP problems yet it runs just fine now. The bios and Nvidia's (can't speak to ATI) drivers matured enough that I have no problem running 4x and stable..

You mentioned you were running Cat 6.2?.. If you find it's still flacky maybe run something newer, something that's VIA debugged:)

I never had a really early Athlon system, but don't remember there being AGP problems.. I started with an Athlon XP 2100 and VIA KT266.. No problems at all...

Yes you have been fortunate. 😀