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Reply 2980 of 3113, by Deksor

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RandomStranger wrote on 2020-12-18, 17:06:
Deksor wrote on 2020-12-18, 08:49:
RandomStranger wrote on 2020-12-03, 09:33:
It's not really a recent find, but something I had an eye out for for a while and literally saved from a dumpster. It's an old t […]
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It's not really a recent find, but something I had an eye out for for a while and literally saved from a dumpster.
It's an old terminal used at my workplace. It was under AC and haven't been turned on I think in the past 20+ years.
But a couple of weeks ago it's time had come to be thrown out.

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It was a little dusty, so I gave it a quick cleaning. It was stored under AC which probably saved the motherboard from battery leakage. It's dead anyway so I removed it for safety. The hard drive seems to be dead, but otherwise boots up nicely. I have a 50MB Maxtor or a larger capacity, but maybe less reliable IBM WDA-L80 as a replacement.

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Thinking on adding a sound card and a 5.25" disk drive. A coworker offered to sell me an Aztech Sound Galaxy BXII which should probably be a good fit.

Board is dataexpert exp3406 http://www.win3x.org/uh19/motherboard/show/5531

If you can dump this bios it'd be nice ! (If you need help, I can give you some tips)

Sure, give your tips.
However I'm in the middle of moving or on a break from it because of the holidays and I left it at my new place so I probably won't do it until at least early January.

No problems ! There are many ways to contact us ^^

To dump the bios it's pretty simple.

Download this archive, put its content on a disk

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then run "ROMSAVAT.EXE" and it should generate a file which will contain the bios.
Then send us that file 😀

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Reply 2981 of 3113, by HanJammer

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Friend left the country and his father wanted to empty the basement where he had some of his stuff, so friend called me to go and grab anything I want. Heaps of junk, trashy cases, cheapo CRTs, but some decent nice motherboards inside (ASUS CUBX, Abit BH6 and such) and some stuff I remember he had when we were teenagers!
I'm not going to keep these cases (just one nice AT case and a decent ATX Enlight case, rest is junk IMO)...

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Check out my AmiBay and eBay for ISA and PCI card, 286/386/486 Pentium motherboards and more.

Reply 2982 of 3113, by douglar

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That's a great haul.

Here's what I found in an ice storm today--
A leading Edge Winpro 468e (1994) that someone loved enough to give it an over haul in 1996 with:
Diamond Speedstar 64 ISA Cirrus Logic 5434
1GB WD drive
32GB Ram
Evergreen upgrade chip

power supply works after I removed a felt like layer of dust, but I only wish that it was AT standard

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Reply 2984 of 3113, by Ozzuneoj

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douglar wrote on 2021-01-26, 23:31:
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That's a great haul.

Here's what I found in an ice storm today--
A leading Edge Winpro 468e (1994) that someone loved enough to give it an over haul in 1996 with:
Diamond Speedstar 64 ISA Cirrus Logic 5434
1GB WD drive
32GB Ram
Evergreen upgrade chip

power supply works after I removed a felt like layer of dust, but I only wish that it was AT standard

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Holy crap, what a nice find!

I know the practical benefit of having what is, arguably, the best (fastest, latest, most compatible) ISA video card ever made is "limited"... but well, you've got it now, and you not only got it for free, you saved it from being junked!

The Evergreen upgrade is also a very nice find.

Even that ESS audiodrive is a good solid card. Too bad that the wavetable+ROM spots aren't populated... 😁

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 2985 of 3113, by douglar

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2021-01-27, 00:58:

That's a nice find. Did any of the insides get wet during the storm? Have you been able to try and boot it and see if all is well?

It wasn’t too wet and amazingly the power supply is still good even though all the vents were clogged with dust I think the dust kept a lot of water out. So much lint. Atleast it wasn’t pet hair. Did a lot of cleaning, removed the battery and it posts, bu doesn’t see ide drives. the 1Gb drive is still good. I’ll try a new IDE controller tomorrow.

Reply 2987 of 3113, by douglar

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2021-01-27, 04:16:

Very nice glad to hear it's working.

This is the mobo: http://www.win3x.org/uh19/motherboard/show/3439

It can't see IDE devices.

Looks like C2 near the battery & ISA slots might be missing. There is some raised solder on those pads.

Could that be the problem? Replacement recomendations?

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Reply 2988 of 3113, by chrismeyer6

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I unfortunately can't help much with the capacitor but have you tried clearing the bios and making sure the bios battery is good. I've had the same issue with a few motherboards not detecting hard drives and optical drives if the battery was dead or Missing.

Reply 2989 of 3113, by douglar

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chrismeyer6 wrote on 2021-01-27, 14:30:

I unfortunately can't help much with the capacitor but have you tried clearing the bios and making sure the bios battery is good. I've had the same issue with a few motherboards not detecting hard drives and optical drives if the battery was dead or Missing.

Thank for the advice. I'll put in a new battery.

Edit: Added a battery, Replaced the IDE cable, and cleaned out the hidden battery corrosion that got inside J2. Now it's booting like the 20 year old time capsule that it is.

Too bad that the powersupply is proprietary.

Still really looks like C2 fell off, but C'est la vie, it boots.

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Reply 2990 of 3113, by chrismeyer6

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I've had boards that refuse to even post with a dead or Missing battery as well as boards do all kinds of crazy things and then putting in a fresh battery and everything started working properly again

Reply 2991 of 3113, by tr23

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Nothing special, but got this today for nothing. Seems in really good shape, but I don't have anything with an AT connection to test it out on 😒 Feels nice to use so kind of a shame, but if nothing else maybe I can flip it for a few bucks profit.

Weirdly I cant find any info from the model number. Says "MPR II Key" on the spacebar. I assume D/M is the manufacturing date and it was made in '97. If anyone knows a bit more about it...

Reply 2992 of 3113, by PD2JK

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I remember they have immense key-travel, but quite nice to type on. Rather soft touch with low noise. Rubber dome I think?

Highscreen AT: Pentium 60@66 MHz
Highscreen ATX: Athlon Classic 1 GHz

Reply 2994 of 3113, by chrismeyer6

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tr23 wrote on 2021-01-27, 15:54:
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Nothing special, but got this today for nothing. Seems in really good shape, but I don't have anything with an AT connection to test it out on 😒 Feels nice to use so kind of a shame, but if nothing else maybe I can flip it for a few bucks profit.

Weirdly I cant find any info from the model number. Says "MPR II Key" on the spacebar. I assume D/M is the manufacturing date and it was made in '97. If anyone knows a bit more about it...

You can always pick up an AT to ps2 adapter and use it with newer stuff. I've seen AT to USB converters as well

Reply 2995 of 3113, by tr23

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Yeah, true, but usually cheap things like that end up costings 3x or more in shipping alone here (Estonia). I'll dig around for one locally, but leaning towards selling it at the moment... we'll see. I'm kinda broke rn so even a lucky 15euro profit is pretty appealing, to be honest.

Reply 2996 of 3113, by bearking

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Got some chips today from a recycling center near.

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AMD K5-PR75ABR
AMD K5-PR100ABQ
some Motorola network controller chip
Intel A82497-66 cache controller chip

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Intel DX2-66 SX911
Pentium 60 SX948
Pentium Pro 200 SL254
AMD K6-2/266AFR
Intel Pentium 233 MMX Ceramic A80503233 SL283 - this is a fake chip
Intel C80287-3 FPU
AMD R80286-10/S
AMD AM8052-6LC display controller chip

Reply 2998 of 3113, by bearking

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douglar wrote on 2021-01-29, 03:28:
bearking wrote on 2021-01-28, 18:26:

Got some chips today from a recycling center near.

Nice stuff. So do they sell these things, do they give them away, or do you just check the bins?

Thanks!
No, they don't sell anything officially to customers coming in, but I know the owner of that place. 😀
I helped him out in the past with something and occasionally when I pay a visit to his place, he gives me what I find interesting at that moment. These chips where for free, but usually there is a price, depending on the category of the chip - ceramic, plastic, etc. Ceramic chips are about 250 Euro per kg! These are the most expensive stuff. Mainboards or sound/video cards are something like 10 to 20 Euro per kg... These are the prices he gets from the bigger recycler(the companies extracting the gold and other stuff, I guess...), but again, he sells me stuff just because we know each other. It's not like a shop so one can go in and buy this stuff...
I'm just lucky to know the guy!

PS: last month I found two ASUS P3B-F boards and a Voodoo3 3000, but they where badly damaged 🙁 The chip from the V3 was ripped off the board together with the heatsink, because he separates the ALU heatsink from the boards...

Reply 2999 of 3113, by douglar

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bearking wrote on 2021-01-29, 10:26:

PS: last month I found two ASUS P3B-F boards and a Voodoo3 3000, but they where badly damaged 🙁 The chip from the V3 was ripped off the board together with the heatsink, because he separates the ALU heatsink from the boards...

Thus is life at the recycling plant--

I see ads on Alibaba where you can get 100Kg of 486 & 386 CPUs for USD$500. I wonder how many working CPU's you'd get out of that? I also wonder how much the shipping would be. And I know how loud my wife would yell if a truck dropped off 100Kg of Ceramic CPUs at the house, but that's a different story.

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