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Reply 3220 of 3308, by Madao

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Madao wrote on 2021-08-24, 20:18:
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At saturday, i visit with friends on a scrapyard (for metal)

Holy shit, many old PC parts..
one xt clone with MFM full height HDD
S3 924 EISA,
INMOS Transputer Card , Hema Tek T414B
286 20Mhz motherboard with FPU
386 Motherboard with sis rabbit chipset.
ASUS Geforce 256 with huge 64MB SDRAM.
and many pearl

286-accelerator from this pile, it works.

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Reply 3221 of 3308, by pan069

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Madao wrote on 2021-09-01, 18:21:

286-accelerator from this pile, it works.

What does it accelerate? The board has a 286 cpu on it? Difficult to see with the stickers. I see a socket for a 287 and an 8088? But it is an 8-bit card.

Reply 3222 of 3308, by EvieSigma

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pan069 wrote on 2021-09-01, 21:07:
Madao wrote on 2021-09-01, 18:21:

286-accelerator from this pile, it works.

What does it accelerate? The board has a 286 cpu on it? Difficult to see with the stickers. I see a socket for a 287 and an 8088? But it is an 8-bit card.

The CPU in the brown square socket is the 286, I presume you install the 8088 from your XT-class machine into the slot on the board so the system can boot. Some Mac accelerators were like that, requiring the CPU to be moved to the accelerator card.

Reply 3223 of 3308, by pan069

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EvieSigma wrote on 2021-09-01, 21:47:
pan069 wrote on 2021-09-01, 21:07:
Madao wrote on 2021-09-01, 18:21:

286-accelerator from this pile, it works.

What does it accelerate? The board has a 286 cpu on it? Difficult to see with the stickers. I see a socket for a 287 and an 8088? But it is an 8-bit card.

The CPU in the brown square socket is the 286, I presume you install the 8088 from your XT-class machine into the slot on the board so the system can boot. Some Mac accelerators were like that, requiring the CPU to be moved to the accelerator card.

Ah, gotcha. Makes sense now. It's an accelerator for an 8088. The way I read it was that it's an accelerator for a 286 (i.e. to accelerate your 286 into something faster). 😀

Reply 3224 of 3308, by Madao

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Yes, you remove 8088 from XT and install adapter with cable to 286 accelerator.

It accelerate by 286 instead 8088 since you have power it. No special software require.
And it can switch back to 8088, if compatiblity issuses is occured.

It run not stable, because i have use selfmade cable-socket adapter .
Selfmade adapter pinout is mirrored : add with pinheader and scsi cable -> correct pinout, but cable is too long.

Reply 3225 of 3308, by BitWrangler

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There's a trick the iopener crowd used to unmirror a pinout with a ribbon cable, get an extra connector and crimp it alongside the first connector, tight alongside, then use the "middle" two rows to the header.

2017: Basement full of ancient PC stuff, starting to go through it. 2021: Still starting, heh, many setbacks. So what's this BitWrangler guy's deal ??? >>> Taming the pile, specs to target?

Reply 3226 of 3308, by Kahenraz

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My motherboard arrived in the mail today in the retail box.

There was lots of bubble wrap on the OUTSIDE of the box. The motherboard I guess got banged around the whole way as it floated around inside.

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Reply 3227 of 3308, by mscdex

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Kahenraz wrote on 2021-09-02, 06:18:

My motherboard arrived in the mail today in the retail box.

There was lots of bubble wrap on the OUTSIDE of the box. The motherboard I guess got banged around the whole way as it floated around inside.

Need to protect the box so it can be used to send the motherboard back when it doesn't work. 😉

Reply 3228 of 3308, by Madao

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-09-02, 04:59:

There's a trick the iopener crowd used to unmirror a pinout with a ribbon cable, get an extra connector and crimp it alongside the first connector, tight alongside, then use the "middle" two rows to the header.

I have use selfmade PCB with pinheader and use short IDE cable.. it translate 1:1

But i need mirrored pinout on one side. Use IDC DIL plug -> problem solved, because IDC DIP connector has mirrored pinout.

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Reply 3229 of 3308, by Miphee

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New management at my local waste collection place so they finally let me get some stuff. Yay!
Too bad they only do it once a year.

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Reply 3230 of 3308, by Kahenraz

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I bought a slot 1 CPU with an Intel branded heatsink and cooler. I wondered why the fan wasn't spinning up so I opened it up to investigate. The entire fan assembly is destroyed by corrosion.

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What's worse is that the screws that hold it to the processor housing were completely rusted and two of the four screws stripped immediately while trying to remove them.

Reply 3231 of 3308, by Caluser2000

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Kahenraz wrote on 2021-09-06, 15:48:

I bought a slot 1 CPU with an Intel branded heatsink and cooler. I wondered why the fan wasn't spinning up so I opened it up to investigate. The entire fan assembly is destroyed by corrosion.

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What's worse is that the screws that hold it to the processor housing were completely rusted and two of the four screws stripped immediately while trying to remove them.

Soak it in CRC5.56 for a day or so......

There's a glitch in the matrix.
A founding member of the 286 appreciation society.
Apparently 32-bit is dead and nobody likes P4s.
Of course, as always, I'm open to correction...😉

Reply 3232 of 3308, by original_meusli

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Kahenraz wrote on 2021-09-06, 15:48:

I bought a slot 1 CPU with an Intel branded heatsink and cooler. I wondered why the fan wasn't spinning up so I opened it up to investigate. The entire fan assembly is destroyed by corrosion.

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What's worse is that the screws that hold it to the processor housing were completely rusted and two of the four screws stripped immediately while trying to remove them.

Not a good sight, might be saveable though with a new fan installed and the rust removed.

Reply 3233 of 3308, by Kahenraz

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The fan is very much part of the cover assembly and the heatsink is designed only to work with it.

I managed to get the heatsink off by pouring some oil around the screws and using a high quality steel torx bit that had a bit of a taper that allowed it to bite.

The next difficulty then was disassembling the processor housing as it needed a proper cleaning after having oil dripped into it. This is not an easy thing to do as the housing is pressure-fit and not designed to come apart. Later Pentium 3s are a lot better in that they are very easy to disassemble.

I did not try to reclaim the original fan shroud as I couldn't find a way to remove the fan to get at the bearing. I did keep the power cable though as those are usually missing with these second-hand Intel coolers.

Reply 3234 of 3308, by DundyTheCroc

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Some goods saved from scrapping in one of our offices just came to me.
DEC tape drive model TLZ07-DA, looks like never been used.

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Compaq Deskpro 2000 PC, really dirty, but in working condition. 133MHZ Pentium CPU, 64MB EDO RAM, 800MB HDD, integrated Cirrus Logic CL-GD5436 with 1MB VRAM, CD drive, 3Com network card and CT2940 ISA audio.

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Reply 3235 of 3308, by chrismeyer6

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That tape drive looks brand new. My dad had one of those deskpro 2000 systems in his office at work and when he got a new work system he was able to bring it home for me good times.

Reply 3236 of 3308, by Kahenraz

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A memory stick I ordered arrived today missing a surface mount component.

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Reply 3237 of 3308, by Kahenraz

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Remember to test your eBay purchases while they are still within the return window. I bought this cute Rage 128 that ended up being defective.

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Reply 3238 of 3308, by HanJammer

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Kahenraz wrote on 2021-09-21, 00:57:

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Print it on the canvas and it will sell for hundreds if not thousands of dollars 😁

Check out my YouTube channel - the Rusty Bits
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Reply 3239 of 3308, by gerry

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Kahenraz wrote on 2021-09-21, 00:57:

Remember to test your eBay purchases while they are still within the return window. I bought this cute Rage 128 that ended up being defective.

good advice as i sometimes leave things untested for a long time, but this is not really found hardware or office cast offs, neighbours free gifts etc - if you put this card into a bin though someone might find it and painstakingly fix it up then post about it! 😀