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First post, by BSA Starfire

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This week I purchased a STB Nitro DVD AGP card at a very reasonable price. Apart from the very good review on vintage3d.org there seems to be very little about this card or chipset on the internet. I have had it on my list of "to buy" vintage 3D cards for ages but never researched it to any extent, now it's here I'm at a bit of a loss.
So who has any practical knowledge\experience on the card? Best system to use this in and OS? Best drivers to use, and also what games does it play well with? I'm hoping it will be fine in either a ASUS CUV/4X (via apollo pro 133), CPU can be from a Celeron 600 to a PIII 933MHz. or DFI AK74(VIA 133A) with AMD Duron 650MHz "spitfire". These are the only two "old" AGP machines I have at the moment, my "super 7's" all have on board AGP chips but no AGP slots.
I have of course downloaded the drivers for the MPACT2 from vintage 3D but would like some outside thoughts before I jump in with installation as both the machines I have I suspect are too new really by 2 years or so.

Help appreciated.
Best,
Chris

edit: this one is just the same as mine :http://old.vgamuseum.info/images/stories/vlas … ni/mpact2fb.jpg

Last edited by BSA Starfire on 2016-02-20, 18:55. Edited 1 time in total.

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Reply 1 of 14, by VooDooMan

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I have some of those,
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but my experience is not very big.
You probably know they weren't the fastest in 3D applications...
but I know there was a special wrapper for those to play Quake1 😉

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Reply 2 of 14, by matze79

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i got also the Nitro DVD AGP,
do you have the Original DISC for it ?

i missing DVD Software for it, and Audio Support..
Graphics Driver is no Problem.

The Card right on the Top of the Image in the #2 Post is same as my Nitro DVD AGP

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Reply 3 of 14, by BSA Starfire

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NO CD disc, I only downloaded the drivers from herehttp://vintage3d.org/driver.php#sthash.sP5ocN0S.dpbs
Haven't even installed the card in a system yet. Would be nice to have the DVD software too if that is not in the stuff on vintage 3D.

286 20MHz,1MB RAM,Trident 8900B 1MB, Conner CFA-170A.SB 1350B
386SX 33MHz,ULSI 387,4MB Ram,OAK OTI077 1MB. Seagate ST1144A, MS WSS audio
Amstrad PC 9486i, DX/2 66, 16 MB RAM, Cirrus SVGA,Win 95,SB 16
Cyrix MII 333,128MB,SiS 6326 H0 rev,ESS 1869,Win ME

Reply 4 of 14, by matze79

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i also didnt install the card yet.
it seems the driver contains a video codec utilizing the mpact!chip 😮

i really would like to have a copy of the original disc shipped with this Card.. i also wrote with a russian collector,
but still have got nothing 😒

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Reply 8 of 14, by matze79

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Yeah, i already figured that out i take a closer look at the inf files 😀
it seems it has intel indeo R3.2 Video acceleration too (IR32_32.DLL)

Do you know what the Audio Headers are for ?
Can i output sound with it ?
Looks like i can simply connect a 3,5mm Jack to the Line-Out, or is this only for DVD-Audio ?

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Reply 11 of 14, by matze79

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Not yet, i need to build some sort of test system first.. the card doesnt work correctly in my dual xeon p3 machine

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Reply 12 of 14, by BSA Starfire

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Just got around to installing the STB Nitro DVD Chromatic MPACT2 card into a system, Celeron "mendocino" 466 MHz, Asus CUSL2(intel 815e), 2x 128 MB PC133 SD-RAM dimms. Windows ME. Tried out Phil's VGA benchmark, 3Dbench2 was blazing fast, 712.1 FPS, PCP Bench 137.3, but both DOOM & QUAKE were slower than the same system with 3D Labs Permedia2 and Matrox Productiva G100, Speedsys graphics score seems pretty awesome though at 197278 KB/s.
I did do a quick run of Final reality, everything rendered correctly & looked fantastic, the score was as follows:
2D image processing :4.32
3D performance : 2.76
Bus transfer rate : 3.35.

It won't run the benchmark for 3DMARK99 MAX(neither will the Matrox G100) I'm guessing this is either video RAM size(both have 4mb) or just old drivers(most likely, as 4MB laguna3D coped ok). But for such a old card I'm VERY impressed, if later drivers were available, I'm sure much more performance could be seen(i'm using the ones from vintage3d.org). I will try some actual games and give results for those soon.
Best,
Chris

286 20MHz,1MB RAM,Trident 8900B 1MB, Conner CFA-170A.SB 1350B
386SX 33MHz,ULSI 387,4MB Ram,OAK OTI077 1MB. Seagate ST1144A, MS WSS audio
Amstrad PC 9486i, DX/2 66, 16 MB RAM, Cirrus SVGA,Win 95,SB 16
Cyrix MII 333,128MB,SiS 6326 H0 rev,ESS 1869,Win ME

Reply 13 of 14, by swaaye

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4MB isn't a problem for 3DMark99. Lots of broken 90s hardware pukes with it. Maybe driver improvements could help in some cases but don't bet on that. 😁

Reply 14 of 14, by VooDooMan

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BSA Starfire wrote:

It won't run the benchmark for 3DMARK99 MAX(neither will the Matrox G100) I'm guessing this is either video RAM size(both have 4mb) or just old drivers(most likely, as 4MB laguna3D coped ok). But for such a old card I'm VERY impressed, if later drivers were available, I'm sure much more performance could be seen(i'm using the ones from vintage3d.org). I will try some actual games and give results for those soon.
Best,
Chris

Did you try setting different resolutions in that benchmark? I rememmber that I had the same problem but I changed the resolution and it helped 😉 I used the 8MB version though.... so you may not be able to set to higher then 640x480 with only 4 MB of memory...

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