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First post, by matze79

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Did anyone of you spotted this too ?
i had now several Pentium 3 Systems (P3 Xeon is affected too), and almost any of them to reset/reboot on Mothernature Test of 3Dmark03.
This only happens with GeForce 6xxx Series.
I also tried different driver Versions, and different GeForce 6 cards and different Mainboards.
Ever the same weird Bluescreen.
i can reproduce the Bluescreen, changing to a FX GeForce and it works like it should be.

A Hardware Bug or Incompatible Driver ?

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Reply 1 of 17, by PhilsComputerLab

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HA!

Yes, happened when I produced a video with the P4 3.2 going against the Athlon XP 3200+.

I used the latest NV driver, but for me, it didn't happen on the P4, but the Athlon XP machine restarted at the same spot, tried 2 boards.

Some of my viewers contacted me and told me an older driver solved this issue.

Interesting that the P4 has SSE2, the P3 and Athlon XP doesn't.

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Reply 2 of 17, by matze79

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Do you know what driver version exaxtly fixes this issue ?

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Reply 3 of 17, by noshutdown

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this seems to be a known BSOD combination: pentium3+geforce6/7+3dmark03(mother nature), many people and i have experienced it. the exact reason is not known, as such a combination rarely crashs in other 3d applications.

i heard some people said that it works in windows98, while others say that the geforce6800 series with native agp support(nv40) would work, but i havn't tried it myself.

Reply 4 of 17, by matze79

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i tested this now on a Pentium 4 1,3Ghz S423 with 1,5Gb RD-Ram - GeForce 6200 also produces same crash..

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Reply 5 of 17, by Standard Def Steve

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No problem on my current PIII system.
PIII-S @ 1575, EVGA 6800GT with 81.98 drivers (the latest driver 307.83 also works fine), Apollo Pro 266T chipset, 2GB DDR, XP Pro SP3.

I did, however, have that exact problem with a P3-800/FX5200/440BX based system. 😖
I wonder if it's a power delivery issue? I'm pretty sure the FX5200 worked fine on an i815 system, though I don't have any saved screenshots or benchmark data of the i815 system to confirm.

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Reply 6 of 17, by matze79

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Not really i use a recapped Enermax and the GeForce 6200 isnt that powerhungry.
The other Machine has a cheap but new chinese supply and my Xeon has also a cheap but well tested China supply.

So i can definitiv rule that out.
Maybe AGP related Issue ?
With FX Cards i have no issues. Only with the 6xxx Cards.

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Reply 7 of 17, by PhilsComputerLab

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I'm ruling out power.

I don't know the driver version I'm afraid. You could dig through the video comments though.

I would try the very early launch release driver.

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Reply 8 of 17, by Johnylyr

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Try this:
I had the same problem back then with my Celeron Tualatin 1400 + Geforce 6600GT AGP in mother nature and the last option solved it for me.

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Reply 12 of 17, by shamino

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This sounds vaguely familiar to me. A long time ago I think I had BSODs happening in that same test on a P3-S I was building for someone. That's where the turtle is crawling up out of the water, isn't it?
At the time I thought this crash implied a serious problem that might occur in real games, so it was among the reasons that I switched to a different board/CPU.
The card was probably an FX5700 Ultra but it could have been a Ti4200 which I switched to somewhere along the way.
My FX5700U proved to be occasionally glitchy when put under stress, so for me it could be dismissed as hardware. But as I recall that particular test was always blue screening at the same point.

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Reply 14 of 17, by PhilsComputerLab

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Matze79, in participation of imminent arrival of some high powered AGP graphics card, I've assembled the Athlon XP 3200+ machine again:

- Athlon XP 3200+
- Abit NF7-S
- 2x 1 GB DDR 400 3-3-3-8
- AGP GeForce 6600 GT
- Windows XP SP3
- nForce driver 5.10
- GeForce driver 93.71 WHQL from November 2006

The machine now completes 3DMark2003 including the nature test. Here a shot I took:

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Reply 15 of 17, by SteveC

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Ancient thread revival!

I've been banging my head against the wall trying to get 3DMark 03 to get past the Mother Nature test on a couple of retro builds I've done with GeForce 6x00 cards and this last post detailing GeForce driver version 93.71 has finally fixed it! Thank you! 😀

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Reply 16 of 17, by shamino

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Yeah this is kind of a notorious crash. I guess it's some driver bug that only happens with certain hardware combinations, not sure if the exact cause has been pinned down.
Maybe it's a combination of certain graphics cards with CPUs that don't support SSE2, but Standard Def didn't have the crash on 81.98 with a P3 and 6800GT. Maybe it doesn't affect 6800GT?
Anyway, it's good to know 93.71 fixes it.

Reply 17 of 17, by SteveC

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I should have said this is on an Asus A7V333 with an AthlonXP1900+

I had the crash on a 6600GT too - but it now works perfectly!

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