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Reply 40 of 48, by PARKE

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-11-14, 14:58:

Well there's the BX fever to account for, all the cycles taste better when BX flavored or something, with notes of plum and chocolate. Meaning 440BX boards need slotkets 8><CUT

Quite a few of the leading names in motherboards issued 440BX boards with socket 370. So....

Reply 41 of 48, by BitWrangler

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There's far more slot 1s around though, meaning you can pick up top tier BX with all the trimmings around $100, 370s for top tier manufacturers with a 440BX seem to be double that. Any other chipset 370s you get tons of choice at $50, there's some around at $20 and $30. That's not what's gonna limit slotket price though, more the differential between slot one and 370 BXes.

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Reply 42 of 48, by AlexZ

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BitWrangler wrote on 2021-11-14, 16:47:

That's not what's gonna limit slotket price though, more the differential between slot one and 370 BXes.

The limit is socket 370 board price, not really the differential. Many people will buy a slot 1 440BX board with a cheap PII 333-400 as there are plenty of those around and find out they can plug in a much better CPU if they get that damn slotket. At that point they have the choice of buying a new socket 370 board or a slotket. Slotkets have a much lower chance of failure than a new board. If the current board is stable and name brand, they may prefer a slotket over a new generic socket 370 board with VIA chipset. They will have to pay premium price for slotket as there are no good alternatives.

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Reply 43 of 48, by squelch41

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is it possible to tell if this slocket is 133MHz capable and fcpga?
it doesnt seem to be in that guide but does look similar to the one marked as "AA370P (marketed as Matrix & Evercool) 370CPU rev 1.0 FCPGA Coppermine / 133 / auto voltage / no voltage clamp " - however a few others look similar too and are 100MHz only.

Are there any 'telltale' things to look for to tell if a slocket is fcpga or pga and if is 133Mhz vs 100mhz capable?

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Reply 44 of 48, by BitWrangler

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If we take 0036 on the PCB as meaning a 36th week of 2000 date, then it's late enough to know about coppermine and official 133 bus CPUs, but a year too early for Tualatin.

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Reply 45 of 48, by PARKE

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Yes, the date is likely a safe indication.
The 'P' version is described in this Lunchbox article:
https://www.oocities.org/_lunchbox/generic_slotket_mod.html
One version that I came across with an earlier date had an 'E' sticker on the rear.

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Reply 46 of 48, by Paadam

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Pretty much any slocket can be modified for both CuMina and Tualatin, just follow instructions that are made by people who really know this. There are so many wrong instructions around (where for example is said to connect to VTTPWRGD which is total BS) and this might work on some slocket/mb combo but is not actually done right and will have much higher possibility to not work.
Back in 2002-2005 I always used this guide: http://www.rom.by/articles/S370/index.htm
it ALWAYS worked, modified tens of plain jane PPGA slockets for Tualations for friends and for sale etc.

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Reply 47 of 48, by PARKE

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squelch41 wrote on 2021-12-03, 18:01:

is it possible to tell if this slocket is 133MHz capable and fcpga?
it doesnt seem to be in that guide but does look similar to the one marked as "AA370P (marketed as Matrix & Evercool) 370CPU rev 1.0 FCPGA Coppermine / 133 / auto voltage / no voltage clamp " - however a few others look similar too and are 100MHz only.
Are there any 'telltale' things to look for to tell if a slocket is fcpga or pga and if is 133Mhz vs 100mhz capable?

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Here some more info:
https://www.targetpc.com/hardware/cpu/evercoo … /adapter_fcpga/

Reply 48 of 48, by squelch41

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squelch41 wrote on 2021-12-03, 18:01:

is it possible to tell if this slocket is 133MHz capable and fcpga?
it doesnt seem to be in that guide but does look similar to the one marked as "AA370P (marketed as Matrix & Evercool) 370CPU rev 1.0 FCPGA Coppermine / 133 / auto voltage / no voltage clamp " - however a few others look similar too and are 100MHz only.

Are there any 'telltale' things to look for to tell if a slocket is fcpga or pga and if is 133Mhz vs 100mhz capable?

Thanks all -- used this slocket and now 133MHz FSB is stable and all ram tests now pass.
Does seem it was all due to the other slockets not being able to operate at 133MHz

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