VOGONS


Pci cards not fit completely

Topic actions

Reply 20 of 39, by OldWingCommander

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
dormcat wrote on 2023-06-30, 19:13:
Looks like the keyboard DIN-5 connector is too far from the back plate of the case. I suspect the bottom of the bracket hits the […]
Show full quote
cydvog wrote on 2023-06-30, 15:25:

No its not, see pic

cydvog wrote on 2023-06-30, 17:15:

Yes motherboard has a tray and its fit correct

Looks like the keyboard DIN-5 connector is too far from the back plate of the case. I suspect the bottom of the bracket hits the floor plate (the yellow line) instead of the slot opening.

20230630_182410.jpg

More importantly, why does it look like the corner motherboard screw hole is not aligned to a screw mount point and why is there no screw?

Reply 21 of 39, by Gmlb256

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
OldWingCommander wrote on 2023-06-30, 20:50:
dormcat wrote on 2023-06-30, 19:13:
Looks like the keyboard DIN-5 connector is too far from the back plate of the case. I suspect the bottom of the bracket hits the […]
Show full quote
cydvog wrote on 2023-06-30, 15:25:

No its not, see pic

cydvog wrote on 2023-06-30, 17:15:

Yes motherboard has a tray and its fit correct

Looks like the keyboard DIN-5 connector is too far from the back plate of the case. I suspect the bottom of the bracket hits the floor plate (the yellow line) instead of the slot opening.

20230630_182410.jpg

More importantly, why does it look like the corner motherboard screw hole is not aligned to a screw mount point and why is there no screw?

There is another thing that I have noticed with that picture, apparently it isn't a Slot 1 motherboard and lacks the ATX connector that was displayed in the first picture.

Perhaps the OP is testing with a different motherboard to see if everything can fit on the AT computer case without issues?

VIA C3 Nehemiah 1.2A @ 1.46 GHz | ASUS P2-99 | 256 MB PC133 SDRAM | GeForce3 Ti 200 64 MB | Voodoo2 12 MB | SBLive! | AWE64 | SBPro2 | GUS

Reply 22 of 39, by dormcat

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
Gmlb256 wrote on 2023-06-30, 21:14:
OldWingCommander wrote on 2023-06-30, 20:50:

More importantly, why does it look like the corner motherboard screw hole is not aligned to a screw mount point and why is there no screw?

There is another thing that I have noticed with the second picture, apparently it isn't a Slot 1 motherboard and lacks the ATX connector that was displayed in the first picture.

Perhaps the OP is testing with a different motherboard to see if it can fit on the AT computer case without issues?

I was typing and you beat me to it. 😅 The #1 post had a Slot 1 Pentium 2, both AT and ATX connectors, and SDRAM; the #13 post had EDO RAM and AT only.

Reply 23 of 39, by andre_6

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

Potential AT vs ATX mix ups and issues aside in this scenario, I also had this kind of problem.

Even in an apparently lauded ATX case like the Inwin A500 I've had to compensate for some quirks of the removable tray where the motherboard sits. Even though the standoffs were all the same height, for some reason the expansion cards were not going in fully in the board. I then noticed that the board was slanted just enough to make it low enough on the ports' side for the cards to not go all the way.

I had to slightly elevate all of the standoffs closest to the ports' side to make the board level throughout when screwed on. At first I thought the L shaped tray was bent in some way but nope, and also the standoffs are all at the same height between themselves. I still don't know why this happened.

Here's hoping that the OP's just mixed up AT vs. ATX. The case seems well built anyway. The Late AT/early ATX hardware era can be confusing...

Reply 24 of 39, by Horun

User metadata
Rank l33t++
Rank
l33t++

In first picture the card is NOT properly seated in the PCI slot, the back is not fully down as others mentioned. Looking close at the slot it is obvious, see picture below.
Also: rare but I have stumbled on a few brackets that are about 1/16" or so above the case back when properly seated, for those I barely bend the Tang down so it fits a bit closer....

Attachments

  • 20230630B.jpg
    Filename
    20230630B.jpg
    File size
    225.45 KiB
    Views
    1000 views
    File license
    Public domain

Hate posting a reply and then have to edit it because it made no sense 😁 First computer was an IBM 3270 workstation with CGA monitor. Stuff: https://archive.org/details/@horun

Reply 26 of 39, by weedeewee

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

the bottom of the card plate should slide into the slit of the mainboardcarrier.

Attachments

  • Untitled.jpg
    Filename
    Untitled.jpg
    File size
    37.24 KiB
    Views
    935 views
    File comment
    this slides into that.
    File license
    CC-BY-4.0

Right to repair is fundamental. You own it, you're allowed to fix it.
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
Do not ask Why !
https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Serial_port

Reply 28 of 39, by weedeewee

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
cydvog wrote on 2023-07-02, 13:06:
weedeewee wrote on 2023-07-02, 12:33:

the bottom of the card plate should slide into the slit of the mainboardcarrier.

Its entering but not completely

Show us.
Take a photo that shows card in slit of mainboardcarrier with and without the mainboard,
with slit in mainboardcarrier and top of card visible in both photos.

Right to repair is fundamental. You own it, you're allowed to fix it.
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
Do not ask Why !
https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Serial_port

Reply 29 of 39, by cydvog

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

My english not so well im attached pictures

Attachments

Reply 30 of 39, by weedeewee

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

ok, close but no cigar.

I want you to take a photo of the card in the computer case with and without the mainboard in place, and showing both top of card & slit in mainboardcarrier in which card is situated.
You will have to take the photo at an angle. not straight from top.

Right to repair is fundamental. You own it, you're allowed to fix it.
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
Do not ask Why !
https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Serial_port

Reply 31 of 39, by cydvog

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
weedeewee wrote on 2023-07-02, 13:25:

ok, close but no cigar.

I want you to take a photo of the card in the computer case with and without the mainboard in place, and showing both top of card & slit in mainboardcarrier in which card is situated.
You will have to take the photo at an angle. not straight from top.

Can you add example photos i didnt unterstand ::))

Reply 32 of 39, by weedeewee

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
cydvog wrote on 2023-07-02, 13:31:
weedeewee wrote on 2023-07-02, 13:25:

ok, close but no cigar.

I want you to take a photo of the card in the computer case with and without the mainboard in place, and showing both top of card & slit in mainboardcarrier in which card is situated.
You will have to take the photo at an angle. not straight from top.

Can you add example photos i didnt unterstand ::))

Sorry, I can not.

Right to repair is fundamental. You own it, you're allowed to fix it.
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
Do not ask Why !
https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Serial_port

Reply 33 of 39, by cydvog

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Here is picture tray with motherboard card is completely fit. But after put tray in it back to case its not fit.

Attachments

Reply 34 of 39, by weedeewee

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
cydvog wrote on 2023-07-02, 13:41:

Here is picture tray with motherboard card is completely fit. But after put tray in it back to case its not fit.

the standoffs you are using to support your mainboard are too short.

put mainboard back in case and take photo like in this post. Re: Pci cards not fit completely

keyboard connector should be clearly visible !

Right to repair is fundamental. You own it, you're allowed to fix it.
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
Do not ask Why !
https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Serial_port

Reply 35 of 39, by cydvog

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
weedeewee wrote on 2023-07-02, 13:44:
the standoffs you are using to support your mainboard are too short. […]
Show full quote
cydvog wrote on 2023-07-02, 13:41:

Here is picture tray with motherboard card is completely fit. But after put tray in it back to case its not fit.

the standoffs you are using to support your mainboard are too short.

put mainboard back in case and take photo like in this post. Re: Pci cards not fit completely

keyboard connector should be clearly visible !

Here is , im suspecting standofss like you

Attachments

Reply 36 of 39, by weedeewee

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

Measure the standoffs Re: Pci cards not fit completely

like this

Attachments

  • DSC_1223.JPG
    Filename
    DSC_1223.JPG
    File size
    77.1 KiB
    Views
    868 views
    File comment
    standoff measurement 6.5mm
    File license
    CC-BY-4.0

Right to repair is fundamental. You own it, you're allowed to fix it.
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
Do not ask Why !
https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Serial_port

Reply 38 of 39, by weedeewee

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t

mine are 6.5mm

Right to repair is fundamental. You own it, you're allowed to fix it.
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
Do not ask Why !
https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/Serial_port