Have you tried measuring with a multimeter if there's connection between the pin on the socket and the pin on the slot? Maybe in some older spec, VTT should be ~2V and is then made from the VCore? Did you measure the voltage with a CPU inserted?

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-01-10, 22:01:

Have you tried measuring with a multimeter if there's connection between the pin on the socket and the pin on the slot? Maybe in some older spec, VTT should be ~2V and is then made from the VCore? Did you measure the voltage with a CPU inserted?

Hello,H3nrik V!
First .I do measurment with powered on motherboard when SLOTKET in motherboard and CPU is in socket.
At all slotkets (A,B,C) VTT voltage from pin A1 PIN arrives at the pin AN11 passing through a resistor assembly 55 Ohm.
Sorry, i must to correct you but VTT voltage about 2V is not normal and is to high . I went to internet and found documentatin for pentium 2 .
Basic VTT is about 1.5V . Here is proof.

B and C are both PPGA Celeron only Slotkets and when I look up the data sheet those Celeron cpus it lists pin AN11 as: AN11 - Reserved for future use

So does it matter that they are at 2 volts? I dont know I'm asking...

Edit: BTW Slotket C appears to be a 'Matrix S370-Adaptor PPGA Celeron / 66, 100 / auto voltage' and Slotket B appears to be a 'Procomp D370A ver: 1.0 PPGA Celeron / 66, 100 / auto voltage'

Edit #2: I checked and I have a Slotket C (I was wondering why it looked familiar) it boots with a 400 MHz Mendocino Celeron and when its running if I check AN11 my multimeter reads 2.01 volts.

Well, looking at datasheets of both Celeron SEPP/PPGA and Pentium 3 FCPGA, inspired by Grem Five's post, it is clear that VTT is not connected to Celeron CPUs. On Pentium 3 it is, which is probably why your B and C slotkets don't POST. Why there's 2V on pin AN11 we can't know without knowing internal silicon of the Celeron, though.

https://download.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/ … ts/24526408.pdf <- Pentium III datasheet
https://www.intel.com/design/celeron/datashts/24365820.pdf <- Celeron datasheet

Also, I stumbled upon this datasheet describing the interface Celeron <-> 440 LX chipset. There's a lot of guidelines on the subject of VTT
http://datasheets.chipdb.org/Intel/x86/Celeron/24508801.pdf

Hello , H3nrik V!.
First i wish to thank you for datasheets for celerons at S.E.C / PPGA/FCPGA packing.
I could found datasheets for P3 370 , P2 and celeron with Netburst architecture only.
I take my first look for Celerons specs at here i found something interesting that should approve my thing;

For clean on-chip power distribution, Intel Celeron processors in the S.E.P. Package have 27 VCC (power) and 30 VSS (ground) inp […]
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For clean on-chip power distribution, Intel Celeron processors in the S.E.P. Package have 27 VCC
(power) and 30 VSS (ground) inputs. The 27 VCC pins are further divided to provide the different
voltage levels to the components. VCCCORE inputs for the processor core account for 19 of the VCC
pins, while 4 VTT inputs (1.5 V) are used to provide a AGTL+ termination voltage to the processor.
For only the S.E.P. Package, one VCC5 pin is provided for Voltage Transient Tools. VCC5 and
VCCCORE must remain electrically separated from each other.

It's for Celerons in S.E.P. package. Should be Covington and Mendocino. And as you can see VTT is about 1.5V
May you show where you found information that VTT pins not in use . Just for me it's sounds strange.
Thanks.
Proceeds my discovery...

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-01-11, 06:45:

https://download.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/ … ts/24526408.pdf <- Pentium III datasheet
https://www.intel.com/design/celeron/datashts/24365820.pdf <- Celeron datasheet

Thats the same datasheets I looked at. I dont see any pins on the PPGA Celeron package marked VTT, compare that with the Pentium 3 where they are clearly denoted.

Big thanks for a lot useful information. Especially interesting how these CPUs (Mendocino) use GTL+/termination bus.
May be problem with slotkets is just bad physical contact.

measure resistance between AN11 and VCC so for example AM12. Maybe those sockets pull it up to Vcore with a resistor for some weird reason?

I have the same adapter "B", when installing P3 800EB (model: "SL52P", CPUID: 0x68A, CuMine) in it (I have no others to check), the mobo "Abit BE6-II, i440BX" turns on, there is no further loading, no post codes. I used the widely used instructions for mod slotkey for CuMine CPUs. In this adapter, "AM2" pin is already connected to the "Vss" (ground). When I unsoldered the contact from the "S370 socket" and tried to turn on the system again, nothing changed. Then I soldered the "reset" jumper from "AH4 (Reset)" to "X4 (Reset2)" and the processor started, all works good, CPU core voltage was right 1,75V.
In my mobo I use last official BIOS "BEH70", but I manually repack "CPUCODE" section to add all known CPUs for socket "S370", "Slot1" and updated all CPUs microcodes to latest version.
I also have another one slotket adapter "S370FC-D", but after performing all the above actions on this adapter, the same CPU did not start anyway, no post codes (in any jumper settings).

Hi ! I have the slotket C (Matrix S370-Adaptor) . Is possible to modify to work with Celeron 1000 ( 128 / 100 ) ??

Julito wrote on 2025-01-22, 19:29:

Hi ! I have the slotket C (Matrix S370-Adaptor) . Is possible to modify to work with Celeron 1000 ( 128 / 100 ) ??

Sure.
Your motherboard should support this CPU (by BIOS, and VRM).

ApostolCV wrote on 2025-01-22, 19:47:

Julito wrote on 2025-01-22, 19:29:

Hi ! I have the slotket C (Matrix S370-Adaptor) . Is possible to modify to work with Celeron 1000 ( 128 / 100 ) ??

Sure.
Your motherboard should support this CPU (by BIOS, and VRM).

Have a 300PL 6862 and yes (based on this link https://ancientelectronics.wordpress.com/2020 … l300-type-6862/)

What pins of slotket i have to modify to run the celeron 1000?

I recommend to you this link:
https://www.ferra.ru/review/computers/s21427.htm
Use Google translate. This link contains comprehensive information with interesting cases.

ApostolCV wrote on 2025-01-22, 20:01:

I recommend to you this link:
https://www.ferra.ru/review/computers/s21427.htm
Use Google translate. This link contains comprehensive information with interesting cases.

great thanks!!

so for PIII Coppermine and my celeron 1000 (no tualatin) i have to do only this?

Table 1. The simplest redrabings for using processors on the Coppermine kernel.
1. Break the contact of AM2 from the Socket370 connector (or carefully pawn it, which is more difficult).
2. Connect the errescage (from the back side of the board) the contacts AH4 and X4 (this is a new RESET signal).
3. Connect the contact AD36 (V_1_5) with one or more Vtt contacts (e.g., U37, U35 and S37, as shown in the diagram below).

That right . If i remember right there is 11 pins of "VTT" . All of them should be feeded by 1.5V.
Most of them are connected instide CPU. But some need to connect at side of SLoTKeT.
It's good to have a multimeter to check VTT pins are they shorted /suplied by 1.5V.
Some time before i made a video about modification Slotket but some materials are not added to video .)

ApostolCV wrote on 2025-01-22, 20:34:

That right . If i remember right there is 11 pins of "VTT" . All of them should be feeded by 1.5V. Most of them are connected […]
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That right . If i remember right there is 11 pins of "VTT" . All of them should be feeded by 1.5V.
Most of them are connected instide CPU. But some need to connect at side of SLoTKeT.
It's good to have a multimeter to check VTT pins are they shorted /suplied by 1.5V.
Some time before i made a video about modification Slotket but some materials are not added to video .)

i will try tomorrow 😁

if i cant make some of the process is possible that i upload a pic and you help to identify some pins? thanks again, great info

Try to do with the guide upstair. If something will go wrong i try to help you with advice.