Do you remember if this game was for DOS or for Windows?

Was it in English? (Just checking. 😉 )

Return Fire comes to mind, but that can't be right.
http://www.mobygames.com/game/return-fire

I think there was a 1997 game with cars and a postapocalyptic setting in a top-down perspective in a palette of mostly green and brown, forgot the name, and I can't bear to browse on Mobylames for it 😒 Can't confirm any 'holes' though....

Ah! Of course, it's Vangers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vangers

Somehow I didn't twig to "postapocalyptic" until you mentioned it.

Thank u!!! after 15 yeras! =D =D

You weren't kidding when you said "green, dark green and black!"

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This looks like something that would give me nightmares. 😊

Vangers was so weird that I just gave up on it every attempt I made to play it.

Either I'm getting too old, or anything that's post 1992 does not sound "old" to me!

Anyway, the Vangers game looks interesting. Never heard it before. Might try it one day.

Looks like (and as weird as) organic version of Hard Truck Apocalypse/Ex Machina done top-down.

As far as ancient top-down post-apocalyptic driving games with RPG elements go, I've heard great things about Autoduel (from Origin).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoduel

Vangers
Greatest game ever made. 🤣

I was just talking with one of the programmers and apparently it will get a re-release on steam early next year. 😁

Well, the game is already on GOG, so I wouldn't expect the Steam release to be much different. But it could be.

Yeah they are going over the English translations and fixing some of the mistakes as well as sorting out other bugs. So it should be a completely refreshed modern release of essentially the same game. Besides who would buy from GOG? They are simply taking games that were abandonware and now making you buy them.
I for one am definitely going to buy it on steam because it will support the original makers in new endeavors. He said also that if it sells enough they may completely revamp it and add more features including a real multiplayer that doesn't just consist of versus.

King_Corduroy wrote:

Yeah they are going over the English translations and fixing some of the mistakes as well as sorting out other bugs. So it should be a completely refreshed modern release of essentially the same game. Besides who would buy from GOG? They are simply taking games that were abandonware and now making you buy them.
I for one am definitely going to buy it on steam because it will support the original makers in new endeavors. He said also that if it sells enough they may completely revamp it and add more features including a real multiplayer that doesn't just consist of versus.

There is no such thing as abandonware. As long as a copyright exists, you're still supposed to be paying for them so GOG isn't doing anything wrong. If they acquired the rights to distribute the game for a fee, there is nothing wrong with that.

Well I assume they will no longer be able to distribute it when (if my info is right) they make it available on steam. But my point was that they do not add anything to it, they had nothing to do with the making of the games and so they are making money off of something that they put zero work into. It's pure capitalism.

King_Corduroy wrote:

Well I assume they will no longer be able to distribute it when (if my info is right) they make it available on steam. But my point was that they do not add anything to it, they had nothing to do with the making of the games and so they are making money off of something that they put zero work into. It's pure capitalism.

Don't you think GOG paid whoever legally owns the rights to the game for permission to sell it? Don't you think whoever owns those rights deserves to be paid if someone wants to play the game? For that matter, do you think the developers would be proceeding with their plans if they didn't already know there were people demonstrably willing to pay for the game? Do you think the developers want people to download the old version for free instead of paying for the new version that they are working on?

Do you think anyone out there can create a game and put the "Vangers" name on it? Don't you think that both GOG and the developers had to get permission from whoever owns the rights?

There is already at least one case of a game, The Last Express, that was sold on both GOG and Steam for quite some time, but which now has a slightly enhanced version on Steam.

I think you completely are missing the point of what I meant. The guys who are going to release it on steam are 2 of the original developers who worked on it in 1998. So I am saying rather than buy it from a company who is obviously not making any games or really doing anything with the games they own the rights to (other than distribute them digitally for a fee) I would rather buy it from the people who made it so that they can make more games for us to enjoy in the future. I personally do not like GOG, it is my opinion obviously yours differs.

Personally I think they are re-releasing it due to the amount of people still talking about it in Russia. The non russian players of this game are a sort of oddity which is how I ended up talking to one of the devs in the first place. Besides most of the people who played it still have their physical copies (obviously not Schmeisser though. 😜 ) and the only reason I would buy it again is to support the original makers. No offence meant.

King_Corduroy wrote:

But my point was that they do not add anything to it, they had nothing to do with the making of the games and so they are making money off of something that they put zero work into. It's pure capitalism.

Oh! This sounds familiar!

Sounds like EXACTLY WHAT STEAM DOES.

*facepalm*

King_Corduroy wrote:

The guys who are going to release it on steam are 2 of the original developers who worked on it in 1998. So I am saying rather than buy it from a company who is obviously not making any games or really doing anything with the games they own the rights to (other than distribute them digitally for a fee) I would rather buy it from the people who made it so that they can make more games for us to enjoy in the future.

What makes you think the GOG arrangement is any different to the Steam arrangement? Why, in your mind, is it a given that GOG are distributing the game without the "2 of the original developers" consent, permission, blessing, etc?

Do you know what Steam does with games they "own the rights to"? They distribute them digitally for a fee. That's it. What's more, they slap some DRM on there for your trouble.

King_Corduroy wrote:

I personally do not like GOG, it is my opinion obviously yours differs.

An opinion that appears to be built on completely baseless assumptions.